28 thoughts on “C-19 Chat Post – October 27 2020”

  1. Today, Trump is going to visit Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa.

    Today, Biden is going to visit Georgia.

    One week from tomorrow (hopefully) this 2020 election will be over, one way or the other.

    1. Don’t think we will know the results next Wednesday, the 4th of November.

      As I said before, I think Biden is pursuing a bad strategy. He’s not going to win Texas, Georgia, or Iowa; 3 states he has visited or will visit this week. He needs to ensure he wins Wisconsin and Michigan. Trump, on the other hand, is pursuing a good strategy. Given that Barrett is now confirmed and along with 4 other arch-conservative Justices will rule favorably on election disputes, I’m now much more fearful of a Trump victory than I was last week.

      1. Perhaps Biden’s campaign advisors feel he has done all he can in those Midwest states. I hope he did spend significant time in them earlier this month.

        I do feel Biden does have two things going for him that Hillary didn’t in 2016:

        1. Overall Likability (Hillary was hated even by those of her own gender, unfortunately).

        2. Covid-19

        If Biden had to pick on one specific state, I would have preferred Florida. I also hope he convinced most of Pennsylvania voters, certainly no longer a given anymore.

        1. Unfortunately, Hillary in 2016 may very well have messed up Deomocratic presidential candidates for years to come. It won’t just end with Biden.

  2. Baker is refusing to call this a second wave when he is asked. He said we expected a surge in fall and that is what it is.

    The problem now is with The under 30 age group. He blames it on social gatherings.

    A comment by a reporter was young people don’t seem to be listening. His response was He thinks they are listening because they are getting tested. But they are just having big gatherings I can’t even wrap my head around That mindset.

    1. It is a second wave, but thankfully it’s somewhat muted because Baker and the state have instituted reasonable policies to curb the spread.

    1. I refuse to “subscribe” just to read an article. Your intention is certainly well meaning to share.

      1. Strange – I read it with no subscription. The NY Times has made most articles related to the virus available with no subscription since it all started back in the spring.

    2. Thank you for the article. It brought tears.

      I may have commented on this. Macs nephews new wife who os the ICU physician in Chile is taking a weeks vacation. Her mother in law asked if she would go somewhere. The answer was that she couldn’t since she had to see her patients daily.

      The vacation means that she only has to see her own patients now and not cover for her colleagues who are out with covid etc

      She works 7 long days we very week and has since this began.

  3. I fear there is going to be perhaps the biggest spike in cases to date following Halloween weekend. College students traditionally celebrate Halloween as well, not just kids. You can bet there will be plenty of indoor parties come this Saturday night on and off-campuses. Also, we go back to “standard” time, one more hour to celebrate.

    1. 20-somethings & 30-something seem to be the “stupidest” segment of population at the moment. For this reason, we’ll have a significant spike following Halloween and into the winter months (bigger than what probably would have happened).

      Also, agree with Joshua. Biden’s strategy is not good. Trump’s is good. I also think the same people that made the mistake of “sitting the last election out because there’s no way Trump can win” will be part of the reason, combined with what Joshua noted above, will be the reason D.T. (not the Mid Atlantic meteorologist) is re-elected next week.

      I don’t voice my political choices here, or really anywhere online. Frankly, it’s none of anybody’s damn business what I do unless I want to tell them. I know me. And that’s all that matters to be bluntly and perfectly honest. I don’t give a flying screw what person A or person B have for an opinion. That’s not for me to judge. I’ve been around over a half century now. I got it figured out. 😉 You do you. I’ll do me. Thanks. 😉 But I do think that this election is pretty much a done deal. Hey, maybe I’ll be wrong. After all, I totally blew the sky condition for Sunday on a day 1 forecast. I’m wrong sometimes. 😉 Again, not telling anybody what I am doing at the poll. That’s a private matter. My mom is a traditionalist and she wants to vote in person, so I will be making her safe for her and myself and taking her next week. Our local voting locations were over the top excellent with safety for the primary and I expect the same for the general. I have faith in them. 🙂

      Have a fab day, evening, week, rest-of-October, rest of 2020, rest of life. 😉

      BTW I got a very nice email from Barry Burbank. He’s doing well, enjoying retirement as best he can. I’ll be staying in touch with him.

  4. Carnage in France and Belgium (unremitting second wave):

    Today, France reported 523 new coronavirus deaths in hospitals and nursing homes; yesterday, nearly 3,000 coronavirus patients were admitted to hospital in France

    At least 689 coronavirus patients were admitted to hospitals in Belgium so far today

    1. My concern is that in Europe they may be dealing with a mutated virus. I’m serious, folks. Europeans are healthier than we are. Far fewer underlying health conditions in the population. Yet, quite a number of countries are getting absolutely hammered, in spite of better treatments. There have also been an alarming number of reinfections.

      This article lays out my concern. A mutating virus poses a threat to the efficacy of all vaccines currently in development. Article suggests mutations has NOT (yet) made the virus cause more severe disease. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200924/Molecular-analysis-of-COVID-19s-second-wave-shows-mutant-viruses-linked-to-rapid-spread.aspx

  5. Joshua I thought I understood the second and third wave. Up above you said this is the second wave. But two days ago you said this? I’m missing something. I just have no idea what.

    Vicki, Philip, on the 3rd wave it’s called that for some of the reasons you point out, Vicki. The first was concentrated in the Northeast, but also included the New Orleans area, Detroit metropolitan are, and Washington State. The second was concentrated in what we call the Sun Belt, but also included California (I guess that’s part of the Sun Belt?), and several southern states not normally associated with the Sun Belt (eg, Alabama and Mississippi; though they’re plenty warm in summer and get lots of sun). The third wave is much more widespread in that almost all areas of the nation are included, except the west coast (California has really done well) and the Northeast. The most concentrated clusters are in the Northern Plains and Midwest. Of course now that the numbers in parts of the Northeast are in ascent, we may want to expand the third wave to include most of the Northeast. The exception remains Northern New England’s 3 states.

    1. You’re right. I misspoke. Well, I should have clarified. The U.S. has undergone multiple waves, if you will, or 3 peaks along one wave. Massachusetts – and that’s what I was specifically referring to – had a definite 1st wave and subsequently suppressed the virus much like Europe did. And now a second wave is underway, though it looks like it’s muted in comparison. Don’t read too much into numbers of cases, as the testing has expanded considerably since March.

      1. Thanks, Joshua. Now that makes more sense.

        Although, I’m not sure any state/area saw three waves, it seems more reasonable that we had one wave with three peaks, depending on the part of the country. Maybe it is best to go by state rather than nation.

      2. Hopefully it’s understood. So, as a whole the U.S. has experienced 3 waves or a continuous 1st wave with multiple peaks. Massachusetts, on the other hand, had a 1st wave, more or less suppressed it, and is now having a 2nd wave.

  6. For the first time, Massachusetts has been added to our travel advisory list here in NJ, although frankly it doesn’t seem to make much sense anymore as cases are trending up here just as they are there, and if anything are worse. This is going to be a very tough winter.

    1. Nice to see you here and you are right about it not making sense. I just looked at NJ numbers. It is indeed going to be a very tough winter

  7. Global daily deaths are also trending upward towards the previous peak period in mid April of around 6,750/day. Today’s tally isn’t completed yet. We’re already at 6,000 for the day. My guess is it’ll be 6,400 by the end of the day. This number will increase this week.

    These are not Spanish Flu numbers. That was a much more lethal virus. But, this is by far the worst pandemic since the Spanish Flu. Moreover, deaths are occurring in spite of much better treatments than we had during previous pandemics.

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