31 thoughts on “C-19 Chat Post – July 26 2021”

    1. As I sit on the deck with tea and a book playing in my AirPod, I switched to this. I do enjoy the blues but can’t help wondering what any neighbors who are also outside see me chair dancing.

      Thanks JPD very nice way to begin a day

      1. You do, of course, get the connection????

        We had to cancel plans this weekend due to delta!

        I saw a report on the news last night that
        69% of Provincetown new Covid (delta) cases
        were break through cases of Fully Vaccinated persons.

        Now this may be a bit misleading due to the fact that many visitors may have been immune compromised. The vaccine simply is NOT as effective for immune compromised individuals. Sad, but I am afraid true.

        1. I did get the connection. 69% vaccinated. Omg. How do we not have a mask mandate. How is everything wide open. WTH are they waiting for. In addition to immune compromised, we have children. And frankly I’m getting really irritated by the constant comments that children don’t get that sick.

          1. Vicki, Indonesia, Brazil, and India have seen many pediatric Covid deaths. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/25/world/asia/children-deaths-virus-indonesia.html

            In the U.S. there has been much less pediatric mortality. However, the Delta variant impacts children more than previous variants, as is apparent from the relatively high numbers of children in ICU in the UK and US. Covid is still predominantly a disease that impacts adults. But, children are not immune.

            1. Thanks, Joshua. I had done a fair amount of research in children and covid. I do not have this link so greatly appreciate it. I do know that so far we are not seeing the same here. But we are doing exactly what we have done all along…..ignoring the fact that what happens “there” will eventually happen “here.”

              1. The opening paragraph is a bit ironic

                “Hundreds have died from Covid-19 in recent weeks, many of them under the age of 5. National leaders face mounting criticism that they have been unprepared.”

                Logic would dictate we learn from this ………..

      1. What did he do now? I just saw mama’s comment from two days ago. I’m inclined to agree with her. I had not thought of that angle.

    1. Thanks Joshua. I’m disgusted by anyone in charge making the statement months ago that school will only be in person this coming year.

  1. Dave my response to your PDF was long so I took a pic and used Imgur. Thank you for sharing this.

    https://imgur.com/a/LGbxgt5

    I want to be really clear that i have no problem with in-school education as long as teachers and staff are also considered.

    if parents want to send their kids to school, then that is absolutely fine. However, forcing parents who feel it puts their children at risk to send their children simply because there is no other choice is not only wrong, it is unconscionable. Decisions have to be made that apply to all children…..not some.

    1. To me to take the choice away from parents who would (very reasonably) chose to keep their kids remote during a global pandemic is just…. beyond comprehension. Like I feel re Baker – I think we are simply being unreasonable and acting like spoiled children- apparently our school system would only “allow” the pandemic to be an issue for one full academic year. After that I guess we are just supposed to ignore it and rejoice that 2020 is over.

      Unreal.

      I also feel unequivocally we should give teachers the choice to teach remote as well – no question. I understand there are very good positives to “100 percent in person” that will be lost with a remote option – but ummm… people hello?? Global pandemics stink – that’s a fact and simply not avoidable. There are severe negatives for remote learning for sure – but Nothing in my opinion is worse than a kid getting sick, getting long covid, or even dying when it is otherwise preventable – period. Second to that is teachers being required to risk their own health and their families’ health to continue in an underpaid, under appreciated and way – undervalued profession.

      Covid is surely revealing something other than our better angels now. Who knew we so grossly undervalued teachers, elderly and kids?? Oh yeah – we do! – that’s kinda our MO…. and part of the weakest links of our country.

      However Delta is on a tear so I imagine even Fauci and Baker will be back peddling soon enough. People notice when loved ones die. And people really notice when it effects kids. Well when it effects rich, white kids… (Sorry totally inappropriate but I’m JPDave worthy angry about this lately!)

      1. Exceptional. Thank you, mama. Would you like to meet with commissioner Riley. I ask that only partially tongue in cheek. That he took these decisions away from individual school committees that know their town, students, teachers and staff is simply wrong.

  2. Even though Boston will mandate masks indoors for students and teachers, I believe that there will be no opportunities for remote learning. Has anyone heard otherwise on that?

    Also, there will be no social distancing rules in place either.

    1. Months ago Riley said no remote. As I’ve said, He is the only one who can decide. If he ignores the newest data, I’d be shocked but not surprised. Home schooling numbers are going up.

      See my post above. Social distancing is out of the question with the full complement of students back in school

      1. I’ve noticed that social distancing in public places isn’t the issue it was last year.

  3. I guess remote learning won’t really take place this upcoming academic year until significant snow events occur so no days will be lost.

  4. I sure hope not. Pivoting to remote learning for a day or two is reflective of a decision by politicians or those too far removed from the classroom. Anyone think elementary school students will be available for learning in the middle of a snow storm? Remote learning requires a different planning method than in person—asking to shift on short notice for a short time is insanity.

    1. I agree. But multiple schools out this way are planning on two snow days and the rest remote. They were all successful with remote last year so I expect it to work. But I still like snow days for kids

      1. Adding that a few switched to remote for the heat. My daughter reminded me of this. And it worked

  5. This excellent article explains in clear understandable language why there are breakthrough infections in the vaccinated and why it’s not unexpected.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/07/anatomy-of-a-vaccine-breakthrough/619562/

    Given the risks of Long COVID and increasing risk of severe disease in children, I personally believe that children should be fully vaccinated as soon as it’s permitted, and that in person school should only be for fully vaccinated students and teachers.

    The unvaccinated are posing a risk to all of us, themselves most of all.

    1. Thank you, Amy. I enjoy seeing that you have posted I saw that article this am and then focused on Dave’s pdf and forgot it. I’m glad you posted. I understand what it is conveying. But there are cases of serious illness and death in fully vaccinated. I think it isn’t a huge percent, but for those of us who are older and have a weakened immune system, it is a worry. Hence…..we need to put masks and other mitigation tactics in place.

      As for school…..I absolutely agree. My brother in law and I discussed this over a month ago. I’ll add though that I believe it has to be a parents decision. First, the vaccine is not fully approved. Forcing anyone to put something in his child’s body that isn’t approved, opens up a huge can of worms. Second, even when fully approved, there are many children who simply cannot have the vaccine.

      This brings me to my belief that we have to stop thinking that one solution fits all. These children are our future.

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