Sunday Morning Update

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9:02AM

What happens today…

Cold works southward, as does a rain/snow line, across a precipitation area that will be fed through this evening by an inverted trough between offshore low pressure and an old storm to our north. Steadiest and heaviest precipitation will occur from the Boston area northward, and these areas will also see snow the longest as it is already snowing in many areas outside I-495 as of 8AM. As mentioned above, change of rain to snow is expected in other areas with time, lastly in RI and southeastern MA. All of it pulls east and out to sea tonight.

What happens this coming week…

2 decent days to start the week, then a long stretch of unsettled weather which will include a wet Wednesday (white for some briefly?) and a colder trend later in the week with episodes of mix/snow. More on this with The Week Ahead post this evening!

Updated forecast for southeastern New England (southern NH, eastern MA, and RI)…

TODAY: Overcast. Mix/snow far NW of Boston and rain elsewhere (lightest in southeastern MA and RI) all turning back to snow but taking several hours to do this from north to south. Snow may be moderate to heavy in some sections north of Boston into southern NH (not everywhere!). Temperatures cooling through the 30s. Wind NE to N 10-20 MPH with higher gusts, strongest along the coast.

TONIGHT: Overcast through midnight with snow continuing, steadiest from Boston northward, all ending from west to east by shortly after midnight, followed by breaking clouds. Snow accumulations from today through tonight (NOT including what fell in some areas Saturday), traces Cape Cod / Islands through RI except 1 or 2 inches possible northern RI across interior southeastern MA up to about the Mass Pike, and from around 2 to as much as 5 inches anywhere north of there (keep the range in mind, not the top #), and a few greater than 5 inch amounts possible especially parts of northern Middlesex County and Essex County of MA into southern NH (not everywhere will see this either!!). Lows upper 20s to lower 30s. Wind NW 5-15 MPH.

MONDAY: Partly to mostly sunny. Highs around 40. Wind NW 10-20 MPH and gusty.

TUESDAY: Mostly sunny day. Cloudy at night with snow/mix/rain developing late. Low 22. High 42.

WEDNESDAY: Cloudy. Mix to rain north, rain to rain showers south. Low 33. High 44.

THURSDAY: Mostly cloudy. Chance of rain and snow showers. Low 32. High 41.

FRIDAY: Mostly cloudy. Chance of snow showers. Low 28. High 38.

SATURDAY: Mostly cloudy. Chance of snow showers. Low 29. High 37.

306 thoughts on “Sunday Morning Update”

  1. Thanks TK !

    Fun event to watch unfold today ….. Perhaps another precip pivot on the radar this evening.

    Watching this tail of precip that extends down thru eastern CT. It seems to be intensifying a bit the last hour.

  2. And before anybody thinks today’s forecast is going to be a bust based on current radar, don’t bother. 🙂 Most of the coming precipitation has not formed yet. It will be forming and falling over the region all day into tonight.

    1. For sure … truly watching the event evolving overhead rather than tracking a batch of precip thats approaching from a certain direction.

  3. Thanks, TK. And re: comment re: radar – TWC does have better radar. I know there must be a radar out there which shows rain/snow better. Not sure where.

    Snow starting to stick to walks now.

  4. Based on its last ob, Logan is up to about .7 melted for this event. If we assume another .25 to .5 melted before this all ends, then thats 1 – 1.25 melted for the whole event. Thats fairly impressive for two impulses that stayed fairly separate for the most part.

  5. Thanks TK. I am enjoying this as much as an all snow event. First and most important the worry of destruction is not in the mix. Second its ever changing and that makes it fun to watch unfold. And third its a Sunday and after a week of dealing with drying out walls, insurance companies who take miserable to a whole new level and then the joy of entertaining our family matriarch yesterday I can just kick back and watch the fun. I hope everyone here can do the same and if not stays safe on the roads

    1. That is the same thought process I have. It doesn’t have to be all snow all the time and all big storms for me. I like WEATHER. I love watching it change. So what if the forecast was a hair-puller. It’s all part of it. I don’t get so frustrated with that as I do with people getting mad about it with no real knowledge of what they were getting angry about because they didn’t actually pay attention. 🙂

      But back to topic, I love this. Same thought process is why I loved last winter’s lack of winter. Watching the pattern stay as persistently warm and dry as it did was a truly fascinating process for me. 🙂

  7. I think someone was mentioning Wednesday storm, euro is too warm at 2 m temps for Boston. I can check other locations if people need.

  8. I know this is a complex storm and I sure would not want to forecast it, but I still don’t get the mets. Harvey still saying a few inches in Boston and Pete saying Boston will be lucky to receive a coating. So here I havto sit waiting for a call, cant do anything but just scratch my head. It’s just frustrating.

    1. We are a funny bunch, aren’t we? Especially when we have differing opinions based on looking at multiple data sources.

      We can’t win.

      2. You do a great job. And as you know Harvey is my favorite tv met. It’s just frustrating from my view, my day is kind of wrecked not knowing the exact outcome. But that’s weather. I just wish the mets would be on the same page.

        1. I don’t think any two people interpreting info can ever be exactly in the same page. Basically they have all been very close on this. I go for the middle road using Pete as a lead. You see the differing interpretations on here and I believe its because along with model reading they are using their own knowledge base and that IMHO is how it should work

          As an aside I cannot believe the number of comments I’ve heard about having weekends ruined by people who actually think the mets are responsible for the storms. I would not want to walk in their shoes.

  10. I’m now convinced.
    People truly do not understand this profession.

    I’m going to change that. It may take years, but I am going to completely change the attitudes people have toward this science and the people that devote their lives to it.

      1. I’m working on that…

        I know part of it falls to us, as communicators (as I mentioned in my editorial before), to be as clear as possible and responsible for what is being said and how it is said, and part of it falls to the reader/listener to actually pay attention to the information and ask questions if they don’t understand something.

        1. You ever need some help with that TK, I’d be glad to help. Along with lots of experience with consumers I hold a dual MBA in Marketing & Finance.

          1. I will keep that in mind. WHW is going to evolve into something larger in the next few years. 🙂

          3. I’m all in. I don’t have a degree in marketing but I have a big mouth and for the most part can pass on info in a respectful manner 😉

      2. It’s all about the right marketing approach. Things like a clear mission statement, communication. It needs to be treated like a service business with fickle consumers. It can be done IMHO.

  11. Paraphrased quotes from last night that I read online:

    “Did it even snow at all?” (This was written Saturday evening in an area that had not seen much snow, and was not forecast to have much of anything before Sunday afternoon/evening. Again, people verifying an event before it takes place.)

    “You’d think with all the money they spend on technology they’d be able to do this without being wrong all the time.” (All the time? Yeah, you have a short memory.)

    “I can’t wait to wake up and see all the depressed weather people tomorrow.” (Yeah, and I can’t wait to watch you fall on your butt when you walk outside with your nose in the air and not notice it snowed while you were too busy trashing us on your electronic device.)

    People are idiots. A little more education and a little less ignorance. It goes a long way.

    😀

    2. TK people are idiots. Hadi I think we can help,to educate the public and I think the mets have started the process. I hear many lately talking about the EURO and some remember the name of the GFS too. They know the European model has been better. And the best part is people who typically are about results now are proud they know more about how it works.

      As far as the scmucks whose posts are above from TK, they will never be educated. Their life revolves around belittling other to make themselves feel better. That’s just my opinion and I do believe its the minority but they are like gnats buzzing in your ear. They want to be heard over and over again

  14. Looking at radar some heavy bands pounding coastal Maine into the Augusta area. They should come close to a foot I bet. My in laws always get high numbers.

  16. Hi, TK, long-time reader and infrequent contributor. I read your blog every day — and not just in the winter. I admit I’m not a winter person. I see the beauty, but also the complications in commuting into Boston. I live in one of the highest elevations in Woburn, and I worry about how I will get down the hills to my bus stop, in the dark, and then home again, in the dark. If I feel my old car won’t make it, sometimes I walk, which is extremely dangerous without sidewalks, and at my age, while sometimes I pay a fortune for a cab. But the point is, I can’t in all honesty blame the meteorologists (I like them all) or complain if they differ in what they are seeing. Meteorology is a science, but I wouldn’t say it is an exact science. There are too many variables, and of course there is interpretation, which comes with both lifelong study and experience. You had my laughing yesterday when you said the precipitation would begin in Woburn at 3 p.m. on the dot. It reminds me of recipes for cookies, where it states “makes 36 cookies.” So far, I have never come out with that exact number. Again, variables. Meteorology has come a long way since my grandfather said, “If you want to know the weather, look out the window.” But it is not as “exact” as some would like it to be. So we — myself included — have to get over it and just enjoy it.

    2. Thank you 🙂

      I also live on one of the higher elevation in Woburn and if you know the names of the hills then you can guess which one I live on. I don’t expect you to tell me specifically which one you are on, but now that you mention them, I will say I have driven to the top of Blueberry Hill (which has another name I cannot remember for some reason) off Green Street many times to view sunsets and incoming storms, and as you probably see when I go back and forth with WeatherWiz I frequently travel up Mt. Zion on the West Side by the Lexington line. Last night I drove both up and down Waltham Street between 9:45 and sometime after midnight a total of 4 times. It was slushy/snowcovered but manageable. I am glad I was not walking on it though. Looked slick to the feet. I enter a side street near there and was the only car that made tracks for a period of over 3 hours. Not that many people out there last night. It was also interesting to note the 3/4 inch difference in the amount of snow that fell from the top of the hill to the bottom, over a distance of about 1/3 of a mile from 1 inch at the top to 1/4 inch in Four Corners. At one point it was raining in 4 Corners and snowing at the top by the cable towers. The variability of weather displayed over a distance you could see your friend waving to you from if there were no trees in the way. Fascinating.

      1. I have lived in Woburn my whole life except for moving to the Cape for 1977-78 (so I spent the Blizzard of 78 in Falmouth, where we got a foot which melted immediately). I’m pretty sure I know where you are, as I am familiar with Woods Hill. I live near the top of Russell Street, and the little hill coming up to my house at Kendall’s Mill is often impassible until they get around to plowing it. Oh, well, I am looking forward to spring and have various choices in winter weather: drive, walk (1-1/2 miles downhill), take Woburn Cab, take the day off from work. For me, anyway, it’s best not to dwell on it but just get up in the morning, make a decision, and do it. Even if Barry, Harvey, and Pete all said “just a dusting,” it could very well be more or less for me. So is life!

        1. Wow…another Woburn-ite. 🙂 Before I moved right off Lexington Street I was off Russell across from that park.

          1. I am fairly new to the West Side (10-1/2 years). When I was a kid, the West Side was considered the “fancy” part of Woburn (translated — the newest and nicest homes) — hahahaha.

            1. Yeah I grew up in Medford…been living in Woburn since 1999. I call the west side the poor man’s Lexington…HAHA. All the listing sheets love to say “a stone’s throw from Lexington!” or something like that.

              1. It’s a great city – very close. We watch out for each other here. There is a bit of a separation between the sections (The West Side, North Woburn, East Woburn, Woburn Center, The South End) but the rivalries are really good natured. Even though East Woburn is the best. 😉

                2. I grew up in North Woburn (St. Anthony’s). Moved to Montvale Avenue, Central Square, now the Westside. I’m still at St. Anthony’s, though!

      2. Yeah I’ve always noticed when I drive up Lexington Street from Four Corners that snow amounts tend to go up. Once years ago there was nothing down there but snow up the hill.

    1. I don’t think anybody knows for sure. At 9:40 this morning Harvey said that line was getting close to Boston. My guess is by early afternoon it should be snow, but how will that stick. The colder air is expected in Boston by days end, in my opinion that is when I would think it sticks.

  20. Thanks John & Hadi. This storm is pretty tricky. I got to say Thank God this isn’t a foot of cement that would have been real tough.

  27. Down to light rain here cars have some slush on roofs and hoods. Nothing on windows. Very little accumulation on either side so far.

  28. Impressive totals from Maine coming in Augusta has 4 inches as of 9 am.

    Places in NH already coming in over 9 inches.

        1. Now big flakes and this time covering all areas right away. Just when you think its made up its mind, it tosses in a curve. Yep it’s a female thing and even more so a mother thing. – go Mother Nature

  30. I would love to have gotten into the snow action but not the case. Some some flakes mixing in with the snow yesterday. Looks like the next storm is more wet than white. UGH!!! What a waste of a negative NAO.

  31. Gone over to snow on the eastern side of Woburn and the visibility is JUST starting to come down a little bit…just a touch so far.

        1. Just wish what snow we get would have come by now. Hate waking up on Monday and having to clean up snow as it makes me late to work. If only this thing was 12 hours ahead.

  32. Pouring, as it has been, for a while in Marshfield. I wonder if we end up in the 1.5 to 2 inch total melted by the time this thing is done.

    Streams are rising, huge puddles, etc !!

  33. Very light snow in Sudbury now – almost looks like “white rain”. Thought it was sleet, but checked and it isn’t. What an interesting day, weather-wise! So changeable.

  37. What a bust! The worst I’ve seen in a long time LOL. Just turned to snow here in Westwood but won’t last long as storm pulls away and inverted trough sets shop up north.

    1. Arod I believe it does stick around till atleast midnight. You. Should be looking at atleast a couple inches sticking on surfaces, roads. Boston still in the 2-4. The temperature has dropped from 38 to 34 in Boston. Boston should be snowing by 2pm or 3pm. Since its snowing where you are, I suspect that line is closing in on Boston. I expect the call soon and guessing I should be in work by 5pm. Take care.

  38. I could not agree with you more on that. This was a bust. It happens we move on. As soon as there were indications the low was not strong I knew we were in trouble since no high to the north a weak area of low pressure can’t drag down the cold air and create evaporational cooling like a strong low can as was the case with the October Noreaster. Its looking more wet than white for the next storm system although interior could start out with some wintry precipiatation before a change to rain.

  39. The yellows and even reds in SE Mass are huge raindrops, possibly very, very wet, half melted snowflakes that I’m seeing out the window.

    I need to see what happens when that upper disturbance passes over us later this evening. 8-15 inches aren’t walking through that door, but …. I wouldnt be surprised by a moderate, even heavy bout with snow this evening that deposits a couple quick inches and impacts some travel on a short term basis.

    1. Agree Tom. Everything I’m hearing is it starts sticking when night time hits as the temperature drops. 1-2 would be my guess for down here.

  40. Not a bust. By the end of tonight most of my final amounts will verify, may have even underdone a few.

    1. I was thinking the same TK. And most of the final numbers of the mets if not all verify. Pete’s comment the other night about snow pushing rain back then returning has totally verified to this point.

  42. Lack of cold air is frustrating for snow lovers, given that this week could have been a bonanza for snow. I’m afraid that for now winter has run out of gas so to speak, at least in Southern New England. The jet stream is dipping into the middle of the country, bringing states that really need the moisture lots of snow (I’m happy for the farmers). But, the jet then rises and practically rides over SNE for the foreseeable future, which means we’re stuck between a rock and a hard place. Enough cold air to feel it (it feels very cold outside; to me, much colder than a sunny, 25 degree day, I’m having trouble warming up after my run), but not enough to generate much in terms of snow, just a lot of rain, sleet, wet flakes, and nuisance.

  43. As expected and as we have been advertising since yesterday morning, MOST of the accumulating snow will be Sunday afternoon and/or Sunday evening.

    Disturbance still has to come through tonight and will fire off everything all over again. Some people are going to be surprised, even if we don’t get that many inches, how fast we get what we do get. Wait for it… Don’t verify an event before it’s over.

    1. I hear you, TK. I wasn’t verifying or falsifying anything. Just observing what we’re getting and will likely get over the coming days. As Hadi noted, WSW are up in NH. This will be a sizable event there and in other places. More snows to follow this week in Central and Northern NE.

      1. Boston will accumulate once dark hits. Storm should be pulling out around midnight as that’s what I’m hearing.

      2. Oh I know 🙂

        My remark is a general one, not aimed at any individual here. 🙂

        It’s a rule of thumb I live by…

    1. Looking at the latest radar on tv that snow line is ever so close to Boston. I suspect all snow in the city by 2pm, 3 at the latest.

      1. It’s accumulating fast with such big flakes John. Could be 2 here now. Odd that this go round sticking started immediately even with temp at 33 and roads wet

  46. Started snowing Moderate to heavy in Quincy about 15mins ago. Starting to cover grassy services. Temp drop 3 degrees in about 30mins

  47. Really big snowflakes coming down in Sudbury now! Really very pretty – like a Christmas card or winter painting! Now this is the type of snow in winter that I like. Unless, of course, you are out riding/walking in it – prob’ly very slippery. Nice to enjoy from inside – if outside, be careful. Temp. is 31 degrees right now.

  48. Snow picking up real fast in Woburn now. Just starting to accumulate – suspect things will be covered soon. Echoes starting to fill in over central MA indicating the disturbance is doing its thing. I have to be honest – not surprised at any of this.

  49. Surprised how fast it’s snowing…went from rain one second to furious snow the next…pouring down snow.

  50. This was not a bust as amounts were changed yesterday. An official bust would be calling for 6-12 and getting 2. So in my books this is not bust.

    1. I had people last night telling me it was a bust based on what was said 5 days ago. I didn’t know the final word was given 5 days out…ugh.

  52. About to pile up snow fairly decently in eastern Mass, maybe north of Marshfield/ Scituate area…….

    Still 39F, but at least its not the 41-43F of a couple hrs ago.

  53. Moderate snow in Woburn. Main road is wet. Side road/driveway starting to slush over. Roofs turning white, as are car tops.

      1. It may ease a bit but we’re pretty much in it for a while. I think a lull comes later this afternoon before another burst this evening.

        1. Gotcha…just wondering as if it snows like this for a while I don’t see how we don’t get a lot more then the 2-4 projected.

    1. Wow.

      See how close we were guys.

      The models were showing some impressive snow many days out and ended up being off by what, 100 miles or so in the end. Pretty impressive long-range forecasting IMHO.

      1. Still “not good enough” for a whole lot of people. 😉

        They expect perfection from day 14 on…

  56. Snowing moderate to heavy still in Quincy. Rooftops are covered, driveways are almost snow covered roadways are wet. There are really strong echoes on radar near plymouth and cape alot of yellows and reds. I’m assuming radar is picking up on alot of sleet mixed in.

    1. I’m in Marshfield and down here, I think its the rain mixing with huge wet snow flakes that the radar beam is bouncing off of, because thats what I see out my window.

  61. If I see a stretch like that the first thing I am going to do is get my car washed.
    I can’t complain getting close to 30 inches of snow with the blizzard missing out on snow for the second straight weekend. I just hope all of SNE gets one more dumping of snow before we close winter start spring and start tracking thunderstorms!

  62. Unfortunately just a few wet snowflakes falling, still no accumulation, I’m so sorry to bring this up again but some mets 72hrs ago were predicting 10-16 inches for my area and I’m not really upset but when just 1 inch ends up falling when all said and done, it is sorta a bust for down here for some mets, it’s funny cause I think we’ve come along way but unfortunately the news outlets have gone backwards not the mets, I know someone that got $475.00 for 8 hrs from state on Friday to remove snow banks, not including the 8-10 18wheeler trucks to fill the trucks with snow to haul it away, I’m not sure it was the only area doing this and not sure we r just in the millions wasted, maybe Billions idk, just a thought 🙂

    1. There are towns and cities that remove snow regardless of the “forecast” because people complain about lack of parking. Whether or not its a good idea to do that or “wasted” money spent is on the decisions made by each city and town. And if they make it based on a 72 hour forecast, shame on them. Just a thought… 🙂

      1. I agree but this fellow told me it was cause of the impending snowstorm, like I said it doesn’t really bother me, though someone that doesn’t like there tax’s wasted might be different, I’m thinking looking at radar and models I see about 1 inch will fall here and my latest thinking is most of it falls before sunset or shortly there after not making roads in anyway difficult, I was told they r on call now here for 4am, thanks tk 🙂

          1. They have dumping sites. Also some is melted. At work in the longwood medical area there is a big contractor who does a lot of the removal. He often brings in the snow melt machine. We contract them to remove our piles and do some salting.

          1. And I completely and whole heartily agree, I’m just simply stating that they were removing snow bc of the impending snow, I even told them they were wasting money and they told me laughing but we need the money 🙂 like I said not upset at all

            1. Charlie not sure I’d have listened to someone out of the blue. Unless of course you are not out of the blue. And honestly there is still a lot of snow on the ground and even if we get rain there could be flooding. It’s hard to know from the outside the workings on the inside. Along with the mets I feel badly for plow operators. Everyone knows how to do their jobs better also. I have in the past let into the DPW here when our road wasn’t done but I’m just as quick to call as I did in the blizzard when they do a great job

    2. I cant call it a bust either. Its either going to be #2, might even beat the blizzard as the #1 precip producer for the winter thus far. Have to believe coastal south shore may be near 1.5 inches melted to this point.

  65. Let’s try to agree on something: A “bust” would be if a storm that was supposed to hit the region completely bypassed it (went OTS) and nothing fell out of the sky (or very little). I don’t think it’s fair to call this a bust, because even 3-4 days ago mets were saying there would probably be issues with precipitation type. Though there has not been phasing and the storm is much weaker than projected, if all of this had been snow, a foot could have easily verified, even in the Boston area.

    1. THANK YOU. Completely accurate explanation.

      We made a call (some of us sooner than others) and made adjustments based on the best info we could gather. And now we just wait and see, and nowcast a bit.

    2. It’s not a bust for me in particular bc I suggested not a big storm to most so I’m safe for here 🙂

        1. No ik and I did think rain would be a problem but was hoping for snow, anyways it’s snowing though lightly

    3. It was only a bust because many on here were looking at models a week + out…too soon to come to any conclusions. Less a bust and more a “expectations reset.” 🙂

      1. Quite true of the weather community at large ……. now, about next Thursday night and Friday ………. 🙂

  67. At 2pm, surface winds still from 010, 020 ….. Dewpoints are pretty close to the temps, so the lower atmosphere has a lot of moisture and when that next disturbance comes through, it will do an effective job lifting it and squeezing it out.

    For those who want snow, the good news is the column is effectively cooled off and in a few hrs, daytime brightness wont be an issue either.

  69. Much smaller flakes and intensity. Maybe 2.5 from this last burst but that’s a guess from the window seat 🙂

  70. Thursday night into Friday looks interesting … Another rain to snow changeover. Not a major storm, but I think some decent snow will fall, also at the coast. Could last through Friday.

    1. I think the snow will be in the air fairly continuously through midnight with some periods of intensity pickup this evening. Once the sun hits the horizon, it will accumulate more easily.

      Starting to see those green echoes around central Mass, as TK predicted earlier. So, those will probably rotate into our area in a couple hrs.

  76. I realize we have a ways to go, but for now – where I am – it’s snowing much much much lighter than an hour ago. TK called it. :0

    2. Thats when Boston gets the 2-4 is that correct tk. What time for Boston tk does the accumulation start. My mom is with us for the weekend and she was like your entire day was lost sitting waiting for the call. I said that’s the nature of it.

      1. As of last night I didn’t think Boston the city would accumulate much before dark, and I still don’t. If the last burst is a little late coming they may wait until after 7 or 8 to really get anything. I have them on the edge of a 2-4 area, so THINKING closer to 2.

        Trying to pin down melted totals to within two tenths of an inch. This is not an easy task while all the while taking into account intensity, road temps, etc.

        1. Thanks for your quick responses today. Looking like I may get the 5pm dinner in. My mom is with us for the weekend and she was like what bummer waiting for that call to come in. I said nature of the job.

          1. You’re welcome. Trying to stay on top of things. I knew this would come down to watching the radar and surface obs all day today. Luckily it was my day I had nothing planned other than to listen to music, watch the Daytona 500, the Academy Awards, shovel the driveway, and watch a reply of the Bruins later. 🙂

            1. My son has my 52 inch tied up with Disney cd after saying he wanted to watch the game.I have four other TVs in the house but today could care less. My house will have the grammys on as well. Glad I won’t be here for that.

  78. Snow reports as of about 3PM (not all are up to date)

    MASSACHUSETTS

    …HAMPDEN COUNTY…
    CHESTER 0.8 831 AM 2/24 HAM RADIO

    …MIDDLESEX COUNTY…
    PEPPERELL 5.0 1214 PM 2/24 COOP OBSERVER
    FRAMINGHAM 3.3 208 PM 2/24 HAM RADIO
    TYNGSBORO 3.2 1120 AM 2/24 HAM RADIO
    GROTON 3.0 934 AM 2/24 TRAINED SPOTTER
    TOWNSEND 2.5 928 AM 2/24 HAM RADIO
    CONCORD 1.0 1241 PM 2/24 GENERAL PUBLIC

    …WORCESTER COUNTY…
    BOYLSTON 6.6 1253 PM 2/24 TRAINED SPOTTER
    STERLING 5.5 1227 PM 2/24 HAM RADIO
    WESTMINSTER 5.0 1146 AM 2/24 HAM RADIO
    3 WNW WORCESTER 4.4 1200 PM 2/24 WOCESTER AIRPORT
    LUNENBURG 4.0 1219 PM 2/24 HAM RADIO
    LEOMINSTER 4.0 1200 PM 2/24 TRAINED SPOTTER
    BOLTON 4.0 1138 AM 2/24 SPOTTER
    LEICESTER 3.2 119 PM 2/24 NONE
    CLINTON 3.1 1244 PM 2/24 GENERAL PUBLIC
    WINCHENDON 3.0 855 AM 2/24 HAM RADIO
    HUBBARDSTON 2.8 1243 PM 2/24 HAM RADIO
    SHREWSBURY 2.5 833 AM 2/24 HAM RADIO
    GARDNER 2.5 752 AM 2/24 HAM RADIO
    FITCHBURG 2.0 911 AM 2/24 HAM RADIO
    EAST TEMPLETON 2.0 1239 PM 2/24 NONE
    WESTBOROUGH 1.0 855 PM 2/23 NWS EMPLOYEE

    NEW HAMPSHIRE

    …CHESHIRE COUNTY…
    HARRISVILLE 2.8 945 AM 2/24 SPOTTER

    …HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY…
    NEW BOSTON 7.5 940 AM 2/24 SPOTTER
    SOUTH WEARE 7.3 1222 PM 2/24 SPOTTER
    PETERBOROUGH 5.0 1156 AM 2/24 TRAINED SPOTTER
    HANCOCK 5.0 1021 AM 2/24 PUBLIC
    FRANCESTOWN 4.5 800 AM 2/24 CO-OP
    MERRIMACK 2.5 809 AM 2/24 NONE
    MILFORD 2.5 1216 PM 2/24 HAM RADIO
    NASHUA 2.4 1139 AM 2/24 HAM RADIO
    HUDSON 2.0 1052 AM 2/24 HAM RADIO

    RHODE ISLAND

    …PROVIDENCE COUNTY…
    NORTH FOSTER 0.6 1020 PM 2/23 CO-OP OBSERVER

  84. Just starting there, Charlie, and already over a foot in parts of NH. Big contrast over not that big an area. Another great example of the challenge of forecasting winter weather. 🙂

    2. It’s probably bad that I forecast like that but I tend to forecast what’s gonna happen in my area, even when I look at models I’m really detailed to my area, I well, 🙂

  88. Radar is indicating moderate snow continues for a while, no snow on any roads yet but with this intensity some back roads and even main roads will get covered esp with sun setting

    1. Ww you don’t by chance know an average rate for roof snow removal. Our insurance company pays for that. My SIL spent hours on the Roof last week removing some drifts up to 4.5 feet. They said they’d pay going rate. I was figuring 25 was low ball. They told me yesterday it is 10. I’m not thinking I could find anyone to do it for 10/hr. maybe I’m way off base

      1. Just have your son inlaw do it. The roof does not need to get bare. The idea is to take as much weight off the roof as possible and just make sure gutter is clear and flowing properly. $10 an hr sounds low. I would think a roofing company would just give a flat rate.

        1. He already did it John. Everyone else I called couldn’t get to it for a day or so and it was leaking into the house The ins co said they’d pay going rate. As usual they are taking advantage. I’d love to find someone to clear my driveway for 10/hr

          1. Oh forgot you were not here. We had a leak in the house. Roof did have to be totally cleared. It was me the weight but the water coming in. And it’s a good sized roof but not our biggest

            1. Oh yea than defiantly get bare. So it was the roof that caused your leaks I assume. When a roof leaks you would be amazed on where that water will trickle in. If the roof is over 25 years I’d replace. I believe a good roof job lasts 25-30 years.

                1. It’s a 5 yr old roof. We can’t get roofer to call back and have had problems since he put it up – some his some not

                2. You defently should not be having a problem with a five year old roof. And if he is not returning your calls, well I think you and I know the wording to that. Unfortunately you may need a new roof to solve your problems. Any good roofer should tell you it should hold for 20-30 years and get the ice shield. Any questions ask me. The guy that runs my crew was/ is a roofer.

      2. Hmmm…not sure. I had a company come in during that bad winter a few years ago and it was a flat rate…think I paid $500? People were charging whatever back then.

        1. We had a leak back then too – different roof – and insurance co paid same SIL 450 for half the time. I guess it would be inappropriate to repeat here some of the comments I’ve made about our insurance company huh 🙂

  90. Areas to the west of the CT River are starting to feel that final disturbance. Can see the radar starting to fill back in out that way.

  91. I did see a peek of sun on 95 in Attleboro about 1:45! Now I think the only thing we are missing from this storm is thunder and hail.

    1. Flooding may be a problem for some mid week next week, it’s tough to pinpoint but wouldn’t suprise me esp if 1-2 inches of rain falls,

  93. What a day! I had to go to CT this am to pick up a family member and on the way back up 395, there was a sudden burst of snow to near white levels and I watched a 4 car collision ahead of me and swerved to get into the breakdown lane. While in the breakdown lane, cars were slamming on the breaks and I watched a car flip — called 911 and then had to see if I could help get the people out of the car. There was no chance, but the people seemed conscious and able to talk. Fortunately state troopers appeared and took control of the situation. Two very scary driving days in a row.

    5. Hope everyone is alright.

      Good lesson there – just because we didn’t get 2′ of snow doesn’t mean it can’t be dangerous.

    7. In a situation like that you must have eyes on the back of your head hoping another wreck isn’t coming your way while helping others.

      Nice work Longshot.

    8. Nice job avoiding the worst of it and glad you are ok!

      A friend of mine did a 360 on the highway just behind an 18 wheeler last night, and then shortly after that the truck behind her did the same thing. All ok though.

      Hope the people involved in what you saw are ok as well.

  94. Thank you everyone. I think I was most surprised about how conditions can change in just a moment’s time.

  95. Band of moderate snow setting up from morth shore through Boston Harbor and southward onto South Shore.

    Interested to see what happens with it the next hour or so.

    Some huge snowflakes flying outside.

  96. Tk are you still thinking a couple of inches in Boston. The mets don’t seem to think that. Oh wait, than maybe we do get that.

  97. Hey, here’s a nice thought…

    Traditionally, in about 60 days, I’ll be mowing the lawn for the first time.

  98. Still snowing still no accumulations to this point other than a light coating on car tops, roads just wet, be safe 🙂

    1. At 6 and 7 days away what I will say is that the big upper low will be spinning around and probably elongating itself along the East Coast. It may help kick off or pick up a disturbance that bring a chance of some steadier precip around next Sunday. Saturday will probably be just an unsettled day dominated by clouds and a few snow and rain showers.

  100. Nearly 2 inches for today in Woburn so far. Still about 1 more to go I think. This will put my area into the 2-5 band I forecast for today north of Boston.

    This was sure a “fun” one to try to pin down…

      1. There is no deal John, from Boston south will get very little including the city, just my take, have a good night 🙂

      2. They dropped a couple degrees below freezing under a moderate snow band but so far the roads that were all pre-treated are holding tough and staying just wet. You can attribute this to excellent pre-treatment and/or marginal temps on top of roads that heated up a bit today thanks to solar radiation coming thru the clouds.

        Starting to think the roads in Boston get less than a slushy inch with most of the remaining snow to fall on existing snow and untreated surfaces.

  101. News said 3.5 for framingham. I don’t know if they meant for the duration beginning last night. If so, that would be about right. Otherwise about 2.5 today

    1. That was from last night through today.

      Most of the amounts are verifying. Some people will think they did not because what fell last night melted. I had my area in a 3-6 total Saturday/Sunday band. Sitting about 3.5 now for the 2 days so far.

      1. I guess I’m just jeaoulous u got snow and we all didn’t haha, I think we’ve gotten a quarter of an inch of snow around here since yesterday, this area has actually less snow on ground now than it did a day in a half ago haha go figure, anyways thank you for all your hard work forecasting, I’m sure it’s not easy at times 🙂

        1. Downtown Boston’s lost more snow as well with the rain, and not much of what is falling is sticking but at least it’ll look pretty in the morning. I think the outer neighborhoods like JP, Roslindale, Hyde Park, Mattapan, Brighton, have done better with the current storm than where I am (Back Bay).

          1. Oh your in back bay. I work in the Longwood medical area. What’s it doing there now. Any sidewalks covered or anything like that.

  104. Moderate snow here – have picked up about 1 inch additional since 6PM in Woburn. They have been treating the main roads which remain just wet. Side roads are snowcovered, though the snowcover is thin and slushy. Roads are slick.

  107. We are just nickle and diming our way to a decent accumulation. 6″ total – both days. Radar bloom right over my house right now. On the way to 7″ ???

    1. Not sure about 8 but 7 will be in play if that n/s oriented band stays put from S. NH through my backyard on the Holden/Worcester line. (NW side of Worcester)

      1. Retrac, that band has been sitting there for hours. I’ve been watching the radar all day, and there has been a persistent plume running from Keene to Worcester airport allllll day. My guys have been out plowing/salting since 5:30AM. Just when it seems to let up, it starts up again. Maun roads have stayed wet, but side keep getting a slushy covering.

        1. I know crazy just persistent. Just hit 7″ and called it in to Taunton. We might make 8 after all.

          My measurement looks good too seeing how Worc. Airport was at 6.5 about 1/2 hr. ago and I’m at almost the same elevation and not very far from there as the crow flies. I really try to take care with measuring.

          Someone put a 6-9 map up the other day for out here (WBZ maybe) Anyway, has certainly outperformed my 3-5 call.

            1. The way the models were looking who can split hairs there. It just stayed just cold enough for even the light stuff to add up. There’s so much difference out here too. I bet downtown Worcester has 20% less than what I’ve got and the southern end of the city near Auburn even less still. Lots of interesting subtleties with the hills.

  110. Snowing moderately in Quincy for a while now. Side roads covered mains are in decent shape. Probably have a little over an inch here. Band looks like it’s just sitting over my house in Quincy.

  111. Snow has recently picked up, falling moderately temp has come down to 31.7 degrees, still not much accumulation but whatever falls from this point forward will stick as temps are now below freezing, my deck has been wet all day has finally a light coating, nice to see 🙂

  114. Get out and enjoy the sun tommorrow bc Tue/Wed and Thu all gonna be dreary and have chances for rain, temps won’t be cold either with temps in the 40’s, almost time for bed, gotta get up at 6:30am,, sunrise is 6:26am, I like it when its light out when I wake up 🙂

  115. Looking at the 00z NAM, I don’t see any way the milder air doesn’t flood through for rain. Looks like a quick snow thump interior though.

    1. Granted its beyond 48hrs but it showing some heavy rain moving through here Tuesday night, possibly over an inch

    1. Oh yeah, not much guesswork now. Did you see how all of the critical thickness lines just plow right through SNE to up north.

    1. You have a way with words, which is probably why you’re already recognized as a great writer by your professors. 🙂

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