18 thoughts on “C-19 Chat Post – July 20 2020”

    1. It does mention side effects of fever, chills and muscle pain…much like the actual virus itself with the exception of breathing issues. I hope it can be boosted well beyond 2 months though.

      I just hope the cure isn’t worse than the disease. Those side effects alone could keep many home from work or other activities, even if just a couple of days.

  3. I find some encouraging data today, with the usual Sunday and Monday data caveats. Deaths and hospitalizations in the Northeast and Midwest continue to fall. Daily deaths dwindling to single digits in most Northeast and Midwest states. Southeast, South, and Southwest continue to see increases, but NOT in line with case growth. There is a chasm between case growth and increase in deaths (slope of former is MUCH greater), which suggests that more people today are surviving, median age of sick is lower, and treatments are better.

    I hope that data the rest of this week confirms what I just wrote. I have a feeling it will. If in the next 2-3 weeks we see deaths plateau at their current level (average of around 725 a day) that would be a good sign. Obviously still a lot of deaths, but if we can avoid seeing a further increase, I’d be immensely happy.

    1. Joshua, what are your thoughts with the potential vaccine that Scott posted above? My concerns are the side effects and the short time span (2 months).

      I guess we will have to take what we can get. Hopefully it will lead to a much more effective vaccine with any side effects in very few people (more like the current influenza vaccine).

      1. I’m wondering the same. It seems that even having had covid is showing a short-term immunity. If that is true, I’m not surprised at the frequency of needing a vaccine every few months. I wonder how long the chills, etc last. I know of a bunch of folks who had the same reaction to the New shingles Vaccine.

        1. Interesting. Perhaps that is typical with brand new vaccines and then they are perfected over time with longer lasting results. Hopefully we don’t have to wait too long. I guess we have to start “somewhere”.

          1. Yes, we’ll have to start somewhere. Consider how fast the process is going. Normally, it takes many years for a vaccine to be developed. Now, it’s at warp speed. As a result, I don’t expect a `perfect’ vaccine right away. There will be flaws with all of the first ones, including the latest one which would require two shots.

            I’m encouraged, by the way, by the testing results of our professional athletes across 4 sports (MLS, MLB, NHL, and NBA). Really low numbers. Some are in bubbles, others are not. It’s possible to keep the numbers very low so long as people remain vigilant. In some ways, this can serve as a lesson for other parts of our life, including schools and universities.

    1. Good question, Vicki. I assume so, but never hear about them. I read about them all the time on the Dutch news sites. They inspect businesses, break up large gatherings (>25) peacefully, ensure physical distancing of groups is maintained.

      Personally, I think strictly adhering to physical distancing rules and restrictions on large gatherings are more important than masks. I sort agree with the Dutch authorities that masks give people a false sense of security. I’m not opposed to masks. I wear one all the time when outside my apartment. But, I know it’s certainly not foolproof, especially the non-medical ones which we constantly adjust, thereby violating unintentionally the laws of mask-wearing. On the other hand, staying clear of people by 6 feet or more is more or less foolproof. I give people wide berths and avoid close contact of any kind. I’ve become a social distancing professional.

      1. I have a feeling that conforming includes masks. Both for the business and every person entering that business. I know businesses here have employees that do not wear masks and many have customers insisting on entry without masks.

    1. Thanks for sharing Vicki. It appears that history is repeating itself in many ways with regard to masks. Hopefully this will be over within two years (or less).

  6. Yes, Vicki, I agree. I think the rules will include masks. I’m fine with that. I just don’t think masks are THE source of protection.

    1. Absolutely understood. And absolutely agreed.

      An example of many in smaller, rural communities that I think MD may be addressing better than MA and was on my mind when I posted…..The gym in oxford (Baker has been asked about it a few times by press) that refused to close, refused even now to not require masks. Locks were changed. They changed locks. Water etc was turned off. They got portapotties. This is where I think we need to step up as MD has. It was the basis for my question If we are not enforcing, then why

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