Today is the first day children between 6 months and age 5 can receive a Covid-19 vaccine. From what I’ve been hearing though, many parents aren’t particularly enthused about the vaccine. I don’t get it.
I believe it is because we have so little data on the impact of mRNA past a few decades. Even with older kids and younger adults, we just do not have the history since it is a relatively new vaccine. I posted a tweet yesterday (I think) where this was mentioned in the comments.
Personally I believe it’s a good idea to stay away from them for the time being. My son and daughter will not let them get vaccinated. I’m actually happy they’ve made that decision.
I know that the CDC has given its approval, what about the FDA? Will their ok make parents more comfortable?
It wouldn’t make me more comfortable. Despite approval, we only have a couple of decades of study.
Philip, I have not done deep research for under five. I don’t have grandchildren in that age group and the grand nephew I have will not be vaccinated. I was more focused on research for 5-ageless. These are a few of the articles I have read that might interest you
The data – safety and efficacy – on vaccinating the very young is limited at best. I’m very displeased with CDC on this. Our focus should be boosting the elderly and vulnerable. 42% of the >65 haven’t been boosted. Yet, CDC’s focus seems to be to vaccinate the very young. I don’t get it at all. No other peer nation is doing this. But, all other peer nations have put in a concerted and sustained effort at vaccinating and boosting the elderly and vulnerable.
It’s unprecedented to have 3 simultaneous global health emergencies. Yet, that’s where we are: Polio (outbreaks are now occurring throughout the developing world, but also a few developed countries), Covid-19, and Monkeypox. https://twitter.com/LawrenceGostin/status/1539301530301517825
When I say 42% of elderly and vulnerable folks haven’t been boosted, I mean 42% haven’t even gotten a 1st booster, let alone a 2nd.
I sadly have to say that I agree with you and once again am deeply disappointed in our approach. It has been horrific from the start
A Covid-19 related feature of the new economy is the unwillingness of many companies to pay for the services I provide. It’s maddening, and it’s been happening since March 2020 on a regular basis in my line of work. I’ve been asked countless times to speak, give a workshop, and be on a panel, by for-profit companies holding teleconferences that include dozens and sometimes hundreds of registered (paid) guests. Often, they will vet me during a call and then let me know they’d like me to speak. I then bring up honorarium/fees and never hear back from some of them. One time I did hear back and the person said, “well, this is only a Zoom conference.” As if that makes a difference in terms of the work that needs to be done to prepare a presentation and give a talk, along with Q&A. Many companies will also ask for my services as part of their “social impact” work. I do a lot of work on equitable access to health insurance, for example. When I then tell them what my services will cost, they often balk and I never hear back from them. This month has been especially bad. Next month looks a little more promising. But, I have to basically work every day of the week, nearly 365 days a year, just to make ends meet. Most of the work I do – 75% – is pitching to potential clients who ultimately balk at paying. This didn’t happen nearly as much prior to March 2020. So, I blame Covid.
So sorry about that Joshua. Any ideas as to why those companies are no longer willing to pay for your services? Are they somewhat money strapped due to Covid?
How odd that anyone in this day and age would say…it’s just a zoom meeting. Many companies are sitting on much larger profits based on the decrease in overhead with employees working from home. Do they pay them a lower salary?
I’m really sorry to hear this, Joshua. We are not in a pretty place in this country
Thanks Vicki for sharing those articles. I still believe that parents should get their younger children vaccinated with the new vaccine. I would hope there have been enough extensive clinical trials between Pfizer and Moderna. I would think that the CDC wouldn’t approve if there wasn’t enough evidence of success or notable safety concerns.
From the beginning of this pandemic, we the general public have been advised to always “trust the science”.
Joshua – At the time of this post, I didn’t see your post above regarding this subject. I was mostly responding to Vicki.
See Joshua’s response.
I see it Vicki. Thanks!
I can honestly say that if a parent chooses not to vaccinate a young child that the parent and not the cdc is following the science
Philip, it’s a good question. I don’t think any of these companies – many are pharmaceutical firms, or in the business of organizing prescription drug conferences – are cash-poor as a result of Covid-19. In fact, some are cash-rich. But, they’ve cut back on spending on discretionary items. I’m discretionary, because I don’t add to their bottom line, at least not directly.
Weird thing is that the not-for-profits and foundations I work with don’t assume I will speak or do a workshop for free. They’re upfront about what they can offer, which isn’t a lot, but they never back away when I tell them I will be charging a fee.
For-profit consulting groups also don’t assume I work for free, which is good.
Uk is expanding vaccine program for those “at risk” of getting monkeypox. It added more than 200 cases today. Overall, it was yet another record-breaking day as the global case growth curve is getting a steeper slope. Keep in mind, all these cases are symptomatic. The majority are hospitalized, or at least have been hospitalized. U.S. numbers are relatively low because testing is VERY hard to come by. Many are being denied tests, even when they present with symptoms of monkeypox. How this is possible in a rich country like ours, I just don’t know or understand. Do we even care about public health? Have we learned anything from our Covid-19 experience? Not really. https://twitter.com/Monkeypoxtally/status/1539383182776315904
I’ve tried to start a comment a few times. I really have no words other than unbelievable…or sadly. Believable
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Today is the first day children between 6 months and age 5 can receive a Covid-19 vaccine. From what I’ve been hearing though, many parents aren’t particularly enthused about the vaccine. I don’t get it.
I believe it is because we have so little data on the impact of mRNA past a few decades. Even with older kids and younger adults, we just do not have the history since it is a relatively new vaccine. I posted a tweet yesterday (I think) where this was mentioned in the comments.
Personally I believe it’s a good idea to stay away from them for the time being. My son and daughter will not let them get vaccinated. I’m actually happy they’ve made that decision.
I know that the CDC has given its approval, what about the FDA? Will their ok make parents more comfortable?
It wouldn’t make me more comfortable. Despite approval, we only have a couple of decades of study.
Philip, I have not done deep research for under five. I don’t have grandchildren in that age group and the grand nephew I have will not be vaccinated. I was more focused on research for 5-ageless. These are a few of the articles I have read that might interest you
https://www.pennmedicine.org/news/news-releases/2020/december/penn-mrna-biology-pioneers-receive-covid19-vaccine-enabled-by-their-foundational-research
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines
https://www.uab.edu/news/youcanuse/item/12059-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-how-could-anything-developed-this-quickly-be-safe
The data – safety and efficacy – on vaccinating the very young is limited at best. I’m very displeased with CDC on this. Our focus should be boosting the elderly and vulnerable. 42% of the >65 haven’t been boosted. Yet, CDC’s focus seems to be to vaccinate the very young. I don’t get it at all. No other peer nation is doing this. But, all other peer nations have put in a concerted and sustained effort at vaccinating and boosting the elderly and vulnerable.
It’s unprecedented to have 3 simultaneous global health emergencies. Yet, that’s where we are: Polio (outbreaks are now occurring throughout the developing world, but also a few developed countries), Covid-19, and Monkeypox. https://twitter.com/LawrenceGostin/status/1539301530301517825
When I say 42% of elderly and vulnerable folks haven’t been boosted, I mean 42% haven’t even gotten a 1st booster, let alone a 2nd.
I sadly have to say that I agree with you and once again am deeply disappointed in our approach. It has been horrific from the start
A Covid-19 related feature of the new economy is the unwillingness of many companies to pay for the services I provide. It’s maddening, and it’s been happening since March 2020 on a regular basis in my line of work. I’ve been asked countless times to speak, give a workshop, and be on a panel, by for-profit companies holding teleconferences that include dozens and sometimes hundreds of registered (paid) guests. Often, they will vet me during a call and then let me know they’d like me to speak. I then bring up honorarium/fees and never hear back from some of them. One time I did hear back and the person said, “well, this is only a Zoom conference.” As if that makes a difference in terms of the work that needs to be done to prepare a presentation and give a talk, along with Q&A. Many companies will also ask for my services as part of their “social impact” work. I do a lot of work on equitable access to health insurance, for example. When I then tell them what my services will cost, they often balk and I never hear back from them. This month has been especially bad. Next month looks a little more promising. But, I have to basically work every day of the week, nearly 365 days a year, just to make ends meet. Most of the work I do – 75% – is pitching to potential clients who ultimately balk at paying. This didn’t happen nearly as much prior to March 2020. So, I blame Covid.
So sorry about that Joshua. Any ideas as to why those companies are no longer willing to pay for your services? Are they somewhat money strapped due to Covid?
How odd that anyone in this day and age would say…it’s just a zoom meeting. Many companies are sitting on much larger profits based on the decrease in overhead with employees working from home. Do they pay them a lower salary?
I’m really sorry to hear this, Joshua. We are not in a pretty place in this country
Thanks Vicki for sharing those articles. I still believe that parents should get their younger children vaccinated with the new vaccine. I would hope there have been enough extensive clinical trials between Pfizer and Moderna. I would think that the CDC wouldn’t approve if there wasn’t enough evidence of success or notable safety concerns.
From the beginning of this pandemic, we the general public have been advised to always “trust the science”.
Joshua – At the time of this post, I didn’t see your post above regarding this subject. I was mostly responding to Vicki.
See Joshua’s response.
I see it Vicki. Thanks!
I can honestly say that if a parent chooses not to vaccinate a young child that the parent and not the cdc is following the science
Philip, it’s a good question. I don’t think any of these companies – many are pharmaceutical firms, or in the business of organizing prescription drug conferences – are cash-poor as a result of Covid-19. In fact, some are cash-rich. But, they’ve cut back on spending on discretionary items. I’m discretionary, because I don’t add to their bottom line, at least not directly.
Weird thing is that the not-for-profits and foundations I work with don’t assume I will speak or do a workshop for free. They’re upfront about what they can offer, which isn’t a lot, but they never back away when I tell them I will be charging a fee.
For-profit consulting groups also don’t assume I work for free, which is good.
Uk is expanding vaccine program for those “at risk” of getting monkeypox. It added more than 200 cases today. Overall, it was yet another record-breaking day as the global case growth curve is getting a steeper slope. Keep in mind, all these cases are symptomatic. The majority are hospitalized, or at least have been hospitalized. U.S. numbers are relatively low because testing is VERY hard to come by. Many are being denied tests, even when they present with symptoms of monkeypox. How this is possible in a rich country like ours, I just don’t know or understand. Do we even care about public health? Have we learned anything from our Covid-19 experience? Not really. https://twitter.com/Monkeypoxtally/status/1539383182776315904
I’ve tried to start a comment a few times. I really have no words other than unbelievable…or sadly. Believable
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