Weekend Update

8:06AM

WHAT’S UP FOR THE WEEKEND…
Lots of dry air and typical January cold in place for this weekend as high pressure dominates, though with the center of the high to the southwest of southern New England and broad low pressure in Canada, this will allow for a gusty breeze at times today. This gradient and resultant wind will relax Sunday. Sunshine will be brightest today and filtered at times Sunday as high cloudiness crosses the sky in response to some warming aloft.

WORK WEEK WORRIES?…
By Monday, low pressure will organize southwest of the region and pass out to sea to the south at night and early Tuesday, but close enough for a light snow and mix precipitation event late Monday and Monday night. Dry and chilly weather returns during Tuesday and lasts through at least midweek. A second, more potent storm is expected to form off the East Coast later in the week, though early indications from most reliable information show this system staying south and southeast of New England late Thursday and Friday. Will watch, in case…

SOUTHEASTERN NEW ENGLAND FORECAST…
TODAY: Bright sun. Highs in the 20s. Wind W 10-20 MPH, higher gusts.
TONIGHT: Mostly clear. Lows 10-18, touch colder some interior valleys. Wind light WSW.
SUNDAY: Filtered sun. Highs around 30. Wind SW 5-15 MPH.
MONDAY: Cloudy. PM light snow/mix. Low 15. High 35.
TUESDAY: Clearing. Temperatures fall into 20s.
WEDNESDAY: Sunny. Low 10. High 30.
THURSDAY: Clouding up. Low 15. High 35.
FRIDAY: Clearing. Low 20. High 30.

281 thoughts on “Weekend Update”

  1. Thanks TK.
    Vicki as a Cowboys fan you don’t want to go to Seattle and play them there. I know we beat them there earlier in season but Seattle playing much better and is a lot healthier than they were for that game.
    Good luck to your Patroits today! Should be an entertaining game. 24-20 Patriots.

    1. Thanks JJ. I did hear several agree on sports talk that they felt the cowboys had best chance of beating Seattle but avoiding it makes sense for sure.

  2. Good morning. A general 1-3 inch light snow fall for later Monday. The low is too weak and too far out at sea to heavily impact our area. I expect mainly a snow event with the exception of the SS, Cape and Islands where are temps will be marginal to allow for mixing. Nevertheless, with the way this winter has gone thus far, 1-3 inches ain’t bad! πŸ˜€ Have a great day!

    1. Thanks! I prefer to keep it that way in my discussions. Simple, very low tech, and to the point. There are a lot of readers out there that don’t know the terms and meanings, nor do I expect them to understand them. They come to read first for what my take on the weather is. They know they can drop into comments to read mine and others (yours and other mets and non mets) thoughts in a little more detail. Or they can always ask here or via email.

      For now I remain just a text production with no fancy graphics other than one I may borrow and post in comments (with proper credit of course). And as always I encourage others to post links for anything they want to share, again following reasonable guidelines of course.

      ANYWAY, my reply to your post on the other blog about posting model numbers: I probably have said this before because it’s happened to me before, but again sometime earlier this season when one of the mets posted ECMWF snow numbers several days out and there were double-digit totals included on there, a co-worker came up to me and said, “So, Boston’s gonna get 13.2 inches of snow on (whatever day it was)?” And once again, I had to explain it.

  3. Keep up the good work. The forecasts that are given here are more informative and better accuracy than most TV broadcasts and the continual updating by blog members is great. Thx.

    1. Thank you. I know you’ve been with us for a while but only post occasionally. Always happy to hear your thoughts. πŸ™‚

  4. This is all an out growth of the futurecast trend. WSI clients were using futurecast based on the RPM or NAM and WX Central media clients were using their Super Microcast or NAM to do hour by hour up to 48 hours sky cover and precip type and intensity outlooks for their viewers. Very similar visual to a simulated radar output of the NAM. It was a nice, simple, easy to understand visual for the viewer. TV mets were limited by its short term output and its limited input options and if it did not give a forecast the Met liked he didn’t have a half dozen plus other input options to shop for. Over the last 2 years the software has been updated to allow input of any models’ QPF by Type forecast as far out as it runs. It has become a visual the news directors love and almost meteorological crack to TV forecasters. They can’t quit it, because it drives interst, which drives buzz, and buzz drives people to tune in. It is easy and frankly lazy work and provides the cover that it is not a forecast but rather a model’s simulated idea of what might happen.

  5. Great Discussion above and THANK YOU!!

    JMA uses the word Buzz. No matter how you label it, it’s all the same.
    Unfortunately many of today’s broadcast mets are market driven, not
    necessarily themselves, but rather management. It’s so refreshing to come here
    and get the REAL deal. Keep up the great work!!

    1. You got that right. Many of the long-time TV guys are only pushed in that direction due to management. Some of told me this themselves. A few have been able to fight it, quietly, with some success. But that is limited and barely seen on TV. One example may be the lack of low temps on days 6 & 7 on Ch 4’s 7-day forecast graphic.

      1. As many stations are now populating their staff with forecasters in their late 20’s and early 30’s as their veteran staff moves on, these kinds of forecasts are going to become more prevelant as these forecast tools are the go to options for the new generation of forecasters and they will lose the balance of the veteran forecasters. Now many of this new generation are intelligent and articulate but this is all they have known since they started and it is what the bosses who gave them their big break in the big market want to see on air. So they will feed their master.

        1. did ya notice how many news stations took weather people from the weather channel. This year. It was not just Eric fisher that got a job at WBZ but other channels got people from the weather channel. I would not be surprised that soon Most major news stations have A member from the weather channel on their weather team .

    1. Why would work be delayed. I was impressed with the immediate cleanup of the lot at Dana Milford yesterday. Unfortunately, they didn’t clear the handicap spaces which I found odd. Thought of you, John.

      1. I suspect that’s some kind of hospital. Shame on them for not having that down to bare pavement. That’s the name of the game bare pavement.

  6. Look past Monday’s little affair, what’s up with the 15th/16th storm?
    It was PRONOUNCED “OTS” yesterday, even by Eric Fisher last night.

    Today’s 06 GFS now has a pretty potent system that would Bring wide spread SNOW inland and RAIN to SNOW nearer the coast. Here are 2 frames:

    http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2015011006/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_24.png

    http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2015011006/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_25.png

    The 0Z Euro still has it OTS

    The CMC is in La La Land.

    The 0Z FIM tries very hard to get a system in here

    http://fim.noaa.gov/FIM/for_web/fim_jet/2015011000/130/3hap_sfc_f150.png

    While we wait on the 12Z Guidance, what do you all think? Does it turn the corner
    and come up? Or does the OTS scenario win out?

  7. This is were I get all my weather. TK and multiple other people do a great job. I only post occasionally, but I am here everyday.

      1. Really? I watch Eric Every Week night and catch Barry most
        weekends. BUT WHW is my go to source. I do really like Eric and Barry. They are superior. Also like Harvey and Matt Noyes.
        My list stops there. There may be other decent mets, but that’s
        my entire list for on air Mets.

  8. 6z output and FIM not reliable guidance. Nice consensus from the GFS ECMWF and their ENSs at 00z. Given climatic set up for that time most likely scenario is out to sea to our south and east.

    1. I understand the 06Z GFS deal, but why are you so down on the FIM?
      TK has indicated that he likes that model. Curious and thanks.

      1. I liked it more previously than this season…
        I don’t discount it as often as I have found myself tossing others out, however. πŸ™‚

        1. Ahhh Is a seasonal taste I see. I like mine with salt and pepper.

          Seriously, I’d like to see the Euro and CMC on board
          before I get excited about it.

          Even so, the fact that one model has it back gives one
          hope there is still a chance. Waiting on the other 12Z
          runs to see what they have. Also waiting to see
          if the 12Z GFS has it, OR it was the 06Z doing its thing. πŸ˜€

      2. Just have not seen any evidence that is performs any better than than anything else and have seen numerous examples of it being consistently too far north and over influenced by an unrealistic over amped northern jet. It has been around 4 plus years now and no one in the forecast community has adopted into their data suite for regular analysis. Again I have always been a less is more guy. Model data from GFS/ECMWF/NAM with ensemble support and a nod towards another foreign model depending on what one I think has better pattern recognition should be all a compentent forecaster needs to help produce a forecast when applying sensible meteorology. FIM,JMA, PGFS, NOGAP, NAVGEM, RPM,WRF, all the half baked short range stuff, when does the model shopping stop?
        To me it just dilutes forecaster confidence.
        TK may have very valid reasons for going to the FIM. I don’t find it useful and have yet to be convinced of its consistent worthiness.

        Things change. SREF used to be my go to snow accumulation tool. I now hardly used it for snowfall forecasts. I have limited time and analyzing products that consistently provide no better or worse data than I use regularly is just a waste of that time.

        1. Same reason I ignore 6z and 18z runs of most everything other than maybe the NAM within 24 hours of an event, where i might looks for some late trends.

          1. Gottcha. You stated your reasoning well.

            NAM is getting in range for Monday. What do you make of the warm trend there? Thanks

        2. It was really only that I liked it on occasion because it had a good performance for several key storms last Winter and a couple other non-Winter systems. But like you pointed out, we almost have too much info available and that model has been inconsistent enough that I hardly even look at it anymore. So it was kind of like a short-lived single on the Top 40 by a one-hit-wonder artist. πŸ˜‰

          1. You’re making me sad as I so liked that model, especially after you said you liked it.

            But you know what, I have come to NOT look at it as often either. Isn’t that funny. It’s only in a situation where there is model inconsistency and I say Hmmm I wonder what the FIM says.

            Did that today. πŸ˜€

            1. I still check it from time to time. You may have noticed I basically never mention it now unless you post it. Sometimes I need a reminder that it exists. πŸ˜‰

  9. Anybody watching channel 7 this morning.? Man can they beat a story to death. IE the playoff game to day.

    1. I DON’T WATCH CHANNEL 7!!!!!

      Might as well be some hokey channel in Pitch Fork Nebraska!!!

      Given that I can well imagine what you mean. πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

      Channel 7 is an EMBARRASSMENT to the broadcast industry.

        1. I’m NOT saying anything against Pete, Just the station in general. Don’t agree on 4 and even if you are correct,
          the overall presentation of 4 is OH so more professional
          than 7. 4 is better than ALL NYC stations. πŸ˜€
          5 is fine, but I give an ever so slight edge to 4.
          But 7? Not in the same league.

          1. OS. I never thought you were. And I agrees re 7. I cannot stand the two women in the morning which is the only time I listen to 7 and if I hear You Heard It First on 7 one more time I’ll throw something at the TV

            You do know I can separate the station from Pete right :). I knew we were talking about the station in general and I have said the same befoe

            Four never reports major news where 5 and 7 do and the vast majority of 4s articles are missing 50% of the facts. I read most of my news on 4 and always have to do further research to find the truth and whole picture. I have also found them deliberately misreporting.

              1. I think their reasoning is that they have the most visited blogs so they write to encourage negative debate which in turn gets the most posts.

  10. Scientist Sees Possible Signs Of Ancient Life On Mars In Rover Photos

    http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2462548/thumbs/o-LIFE-ON-MARS-PHOTOS-570.jpg?6

    “The microbially induced sedimentary-like structures (MISS) identified in Curiosity rover mission images do not have a random distribution. Rather, they were found to be arranged in spatial associations and temporal successions that indicate they changed over time. On Earth, if such MISS occurred with this type of spatial association and temporal succession, they would be interpreted as having recorded the growth of a microbially dominated ecosystem that thrived in pools that later dried completely.”

  11. do not pay attention to the gfs for late week system right now, does not have agreement with the ensemble runs. for example.
    gfs http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2015011006/gfs_z500_mslp_us_25.png
    gefs
    http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2015011006/gfs-ens_z500_mslp_us_25.png
    Same with gfs Par
    http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfsp/2015011006/gfsp_z500_mslp_us_26.png
    GEPS
    http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem-ens/2015011000/gem-ens_z500_mslp_us_19.png
    there is minimal agreement but the ensembles agree with what the euro is showing which is out to sea. and also has general agreement with ENsemble run.
    euro
    http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2015011000/ecmwf_z500_mslp_us_8.png
    EPS Model
    http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf-ens/2015011000/ecmwf-ens_z500_mslp_us_7.png
    canadian is all over the place. not even worth showing.
    Here is the JMA older one. new won has not come out yet.
    http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/jma/2015010912/jma_z500_mslp_us_9.png
    with this info right now i would stay it stays well out to sea.

    1. We’d been chatting about the difference between the GFS operational and ensembles. Agree with that.

    2. Thanks Matt. To be sure, one gains confidence when the ensembles
      show agreement. There is no forecast confidence when the ensembles are
      all over the place differing drastically from the operational run. Does NOT
      mean the operational run is incorrect, but it is likely to be wrong.

      12Z GFS coming out now. Let’s see what it says. πŸ˜€

  12. JMA if you are still out here: What is your take at this point on the pattern as we head into the end of January / February? Since November, I have felt that if we had a shot at a snowy period (that is a series of legitimate snowfalls in at least parts of southern New England) it would come in February, with borderline weeks final week of January and first week of March. I have been known to be off on timing, even when I get the general transition idea right. GFS ensemble mean hints at positive height anomalies more into western Canada and eastern Alaska around January 25. There is also positive anomaly in the North Atlantic. Maybe I’d like to see that tucked a little closer to Greenland. The ridge is not in the southwestern Atlantic like it was in the December pattern but down closer to Mexico and I would think that may prevent that pattern where the trough buries itself in the Southwest underneath a “tilt-over” ridge. The pattern depicted there looks a little more stable, following a period of milder Pacific flow that follows our current cold. That pattern showing up late January if it should hold as the general pattern for a few weeks would then breed our snow chances for the Winter basically, not necessarily all materializing, but making the pattern a little more active, in terms of snowstorm threats. Do you agree with this?

  13. So I assume we toss out the 6z gfs? With that said Retrac should it occur it shows all snow for you based on 850 and 2 M temps.

    Thanks TK.

    1. Thank you. I just posted below about that. Been busy so limited model-looking this morning. I’m attempting to organize a bit up here before heading to Mom’s for basically a 2-day undecorating project. We got a jump for a couple hours Thursday night and another hour last night. AIM is to have her place completely undecorated from Christmas by Sunday evening so she can put it back in order the way she likes. πŸ™‚ My wife takes care of up here. I still have to get outside lights/cords/wreaths, etc. but I don’t mind that stuff sitting out another week as I think it’ll be next weekend when I pull that stuff out. My son and I have a big off-season reorganization project planned for future storage and use of the outdoor stuff, putting us in a position to update and add to the display more easily. No I’m not going to make a run at the TV show “The Great Christmas Light Fight” .. I just want to add a little to what we already have. πŸ˜€

      1. Wish you would post some pics TK. I’m still putting off undecorating but will start some tomorrow. Makes me sad.

  14. I haven’t looked at anything 12z yet but when I do I’d expect the GFS op run to have backed off a bit on Thursday/Friday and pushed it further east.

      1. I did, and don’t worry I WON’T MISS A MINUTE of Bruins and Patriots games at 1PM & 4:35PM today. πŸ˜€ Mom is a big sports fan. πŸ˜€

        1. Enjoy the games. I can’t get into the Bruins this year.
          Have NOT gotten over them shipping Boychuk out of town!!!! What MORONS!!!

          AND they best get rid of that coach. Can’t stand him!
          I know you’re going to tell me he’s the best coach they ever had. If so, I respectively vehemently disagree.

          He’s so DEFENSIVE minded that EVERY player has
          FORGOTTEN HOW TO SCORE!!! Sure its’ nice to have defense, but you can’t win WITHOUT putting the puck in the net.

          I rant. Sorry.

          1. He’s not the best coach they ever had. πŸ˜›

            But I’m a “bleed black and gold” Bruins fan so I just stay with them. Got tickets for Thursday’s game. πŸ™‚

            1. Great! I used to be at one time. Now IF everything is just right I can get into them big time. Just not this year.

              I used to play hockey. I loved it. My high school didn’t have a team. We had to join an out of town league to play competitively.

              I can’t tell you how many times I’ve fallen through the ice as we just had to play before the ice was totally safe. πŸ˜€

              But Claude Julian INFURIATES me to the point I want to SMASH the TV. πŸ˜₯

              1. No wonder why you don’t watch. That would be an expensive undertaking, smashing all those TV’s and having to replace them. πŸ˜‰

                I played street hockey (didn’t really get into skating on ice that much though I was a great roller skater..hehe). Wore #16 in tribute to my hockey idol, Rick Middleton. I often played right wing and modeled my game after his.

                1. He was good, but I go back farther. Wasn’t 16 Derek Sanderson’s number?? I think so.

                  I played 18 holes of golf in a charity event with Don Marcotte for my 40th birthday. My wife set it up for me.

                  He was awesome. Good player and really nice guy. Couldn’t have been more friendly.

  15. Tk, a serious question IF I may.

    At some point when you have a chance, could you educate us on the ensembles?

    If I understand correctly, each ensemble member is the operational run with
    certain parameters changed slightly. The idea is to see if these ensemble member
    runs compare with the operational. If an ensemble run with that change compares favorably to the operational run, then one can have more confidence in the Operational. The more members that can compare the better.

    So when the Ensembles do NOT compare, there is not much confidence in the operational run.

    What I do not know is what are these changes in Input? It’s essentially a slighty different initialization. Pressures, temperature, relative humidity etc.

    I guess I understand the WHY, BUT are these changes realistic? Can they be overdone as to render the ensemble runs useless? I just don’t know enough about them.

    So any discussion on this would be educational not just for me but for ALL of us.

    many thanks

  16. Sports predictions ( and some weather to go along with it):

    Bruins at Flyers – 1PM.
    Temp: Whatever they have it set at in Philly. Pretty chilly in there usually, except occasional hot air from a few officials and maybe a certain coach (for you, O.S.).
    Wind: A variable breeze stirred up by faster players. And an occasional updraft or downdraft near stairs and entrances from fans rushing to refill their beer supply. Personally I think beer is gross. πŸ˜›
    Result: Flyers 3 / Bruins 2, and OS avoiding breaking a TV once again. πŸ˜‰

    Patriots vs. Ravens – 4:35PM
    Temp at kick-off: 21.
    Temp at the half: 20.
    Temp at game’s end: 18.
    Wind: W-WSW around 10 MPH, gusting 15-20 MPH.
    Sky: Clear.
    Weather: Dry, except occasional musket smoke.
    Result: Patriots 31 / Ravens 20

    1. Excellent, but I won’t be smashing my precious HD Plazma TV!! AND I won’t be watching the Bruins. After lunch I have to go get a hair cut, then come home
      and set up for the Pats game. Picture Jackie Gleason after they obtain their first TV. πŸ˜†

  17. Sanderson wore 16 as well. πŸ™‚
    But trust me I could never be anything like him when playing, though once in an indoor game I checked a guy twice my weight and about a foot taller than me into the boards so hard he was sideways when he hit and it sounded like a bomb went off. And to this day, I still don’t know how I did that and managed to come away unscathed. πŸ˜›

      1. HAH!!

        We had quite a team, mostly Woburn kids and a couple out-of-towners that could come play with us.

        I remember once we were challenged by a group of kids from Newton that we knew. They were convinced they could beat us and even offered to come up to play us so we didn’t have to travel there (which was quite nice). We welcomed them warmly but still sent them on their way with an 8-1 final score to remember. πŸ˜‰

          1. Absolutely! The game was all in good fun but hard competition. Be usually just split our own group up and played 3 on 3 or something like that, but it was nice to play together against someone else that time.

            1. I have similar memories, mostly Hockey and baseball and some football. Particularly fond of some memories of
              playing football in the SNOW. πŸ˜€

              1. I remember a great football game in my friend’s side yard during heavy snow with about 5 inches on the ground and huge flakes. Granted it was a NERF football but we didn’t care.

      1. I think 5 to 10 days. Could be as few as 5, but more likely somewhere between 5 and 10. Pattern changes almost always take more time than it initially appears they will.

        I think the first influx of mild-feel air will appear on Sunday January 18.

  18. The Models that i showed above have now shifted toward their ensemble runs which takes them out to sea.

  19. O.S. .. See the links I posted above in a reply to your question about ensembles. I think these 2 sources explain it well.

    1. Thanks tk. I have previously read those.
      I was looking for more specifics. An example or 2 of
      Exactly might be altered and whether
      Or not it could be altered too much etc.

      You know inquiring minds. I CAN’T Help it.
      It’s the way I am wired.

      1. Not to put JMA on the spot, but that may be where you will find the best example or two. I tend to forget about them after the event and move onto the next.

  20. Good thing Channel 7 has its Florida affiliate, so if they run out of shootings,stabbings,fatal car accidents and molesters to show us around Boston they can always live stream up some good stuff from down south !!

  21. 12z GFS, 12z UKMET, and for the most part the 12z ECMWF are the 3 best models and most representative of what will likely take place in the next 7 days.

    I have noticed the CMC has a love affair with developing tiny, potent low pressure areas just south of New England. Sometimes it nails these. Lately, it’s not nailing them, but putting them there erroneously.

  22. TK- I saw your question above and my thoughts are in line with yours. I think I would slow down a transition to that pattern. I think the warmer pacific flow shows up around the 18-20th time frame and then heights will rise out west sometime around the 28th-30th, signaling the start of a more active, but not necessarily cold pattern. My concerns here are if the the ridge does not slide east towards Greenland and the ridge down south ends up east of Mexico we end up with a warm southern stream conduit for storms originating in the SW and TV lows to come up over us or just to our west and that means mix or cold rain events. It will be close! I am probably 4-7 days slower on pattern evolution then most, but I will stay with everything being a bit slower to transition as that has been a consistent trend this winter. I am banking on a 15 day pattern of more significant precip events centered about the 1st half of February being just cold enough to deliver most of our snowfall for the winter. So TK I am in general agreement with you, I am just a little concerned our active pattern ends a bit, but a crucial bit,too warm.

    1. Thank you. I’ll certainly not scoff at your delay in the pattern change. It was right-on last time and again my bias as a forecaster has generally been to flip patterns a bit too fast. Unusual considering I’m a very patient person. πŸ˜‰ Still working on that often-made error. πŸ˜€ .. At least we’re both centered generally around the same time for the majority of the snow.

      1. I don’t think that is your bias. It is a common bias. We all tend to jump on modeled trends which are typically too fast. Same way we in reverse we buy into models tendency to hold on to precip from low pressure systems too long.

        I can see this scenario giving us 4 events in a a 15-16 day period. A Heavy event, 3 light to moderate events and before you know it if you have mostly snow you have picked up 24-30″ plus of anow.
        You have any concern similar to mine about active but just a bit too warm for big snow totals?

        1. Yes I do share that concern. Seen that in several Winters when I was working in the private sector.

    1. When they have the refs playing against them…..defense doesn’t matter. Should have been inconclusive.

  23. Never discount And John they are not the same ravens. Doesn’t matter what they are doing today. This is a playoff game. Anyone here is the best.

  24. Repost of today’s AccuWeather Trivia Quizzes.

    A Wind Chill Warning is issued when the wind chill is forecast to be
    A. -10 degrees or lower
    B. -15 degrees or lower
    C. -20 degrees or lower
    D. -25 degrees or lower

    Today’s 2nd Accuweather Trivia Quiz.

    What are the clouds that are highest in the atmosphere?
    A. Cirrus
    B. Stratus
    C. Cumulus
    D. Cumulonimbus

    Answers later today.

  25. I need some anger management therapy when it comes to the patriots and their slow starts and bonehead plays

  26. I think Chris Collingsworth has the hots for almost every Raven on the field…God it’s painful to listen to him

  27. I think mcdaniels is starting to call plays for the ravens, that 3rd and 1 end around was totally a mcdaniels call

  28. So if they lose this game and if the Brady interception is the point difference will those who worried about the “Ravens” stigma still say the same thing or will it be that the Patriots and Brady didn’t play well enough to win. I’ll still go with the latter.

  29. That’s not PASS INTERFERENCE. this stinks. It may not be totally fixed but I’m convinced there is a preplanning bias.

  30. If I’m not mistaken has Brady thrown an interception in most of the playoff games? Well at least I won the square for that quarter.

  31. I am not a huge believer in the refs costing a team a game…but that last non call on Mosley was the most blatant non call I’ve seen in a long time. Someone check the refs bank accounts after the game :). Well as I said before it’s not the Ravens beating us…its us and the refs. Hmmm pitchers and catchers report in 41 days to Fort Myers… πŸ™‚

    1. It’s not just this week Keith as the refs have been horrible this year in a lot of games and not just the pats. It’s unacceptable that league has not said anything on this.

  32. Formula for bearing the patriots is to throw deep obviously. You’re guaranteed a reception, flag or both

    1. Even if they do, is there anything that gives us reason to think they could stop the ravens in a two minute drill. They’ll flag all the way down the field. It’s gonna take every break and big play to pull this out.

    1. Are they playing their best game …no. D is really struggling and has to pick it up now or we won’t win.

      Did they show up? They are down in a playoff game by one TD…..who is scoring if they didn’t show up?

      What does let it begin mean, John? You get penalized for taunting.

  33. Do I need to spray some tranquilizing mist into this room? πŸ˜›

    Lots of time left. Not only for this game, but for Winter as well. πŸ˜‰

  34. Aaaaand they did nothing with it. Is it bad to say the best Pats pass in this game was throw by a WR?

  35. Legit call (ticky tacky but legit)….but in the face of the blown calls…cmon …Check that load of you know what’s bank account tomorrow…seriously.

  36. His knee was down and there should be helmet to helmet on ravens. And tom I am wayyyy too old for this too.

  37. Why didn’t they challenge. That looked like a fumble. If they were going to call a TO do it with a challenge

        1. To what John. A challenge at the worst would use a TO which they called after the play. At best it would have placed the ball where it belonged if it was a fumble.

          I’m guessing you are not responding because you agree

          1. Pats might get another shot maybe to rematch the Broncos. Great game but they still have a lot of work to do this week.

  38. Wasn’t there a similar game back about 10 years ago where the Pats took the safety in the end zone and which ate up a couple of seconds then had a free kick It would have made the score 35-33…granted then a FG wins it but here is the NFL Rule about scoring on a free kick

    On a safety kick, the team scored upon puts ball in play by a punt, dropkick, or placekick without tee. No score can be made on a free kick following a safety, even if a series of penalties places team in position. (A field goal can be scored only on a play from scrimmage or a free kick after a fair catch.)

    1. Yup, pats took a safety against the Broncos. I was thinking the same thing, why not take a safety. Oh well, moot point

  39. wow, what a game. Was very intense and it went back and forth, though there was alot of calls not called on the ravens. patriots won and we go on to the afc championship for the 4 year in a row. Lets even it out and make it that 2 out of the 4 we make it to the superbowl… Now Im wondering who they are going to face.

  40. Thrilling game and very entertaining. Patriots in my mind fortunate to pull this out coming back from 14 points deficits two times in the game. Watching the game as a Cowboys fan I fear Seattle more than I do New England.

  41. Nice win and happy for Patriot nation.

    As one of the few objective people the refs aren’t paid off, some crappy calls but happens to both teams. Bad calls happen in every sport, every game as its humans doing and it’s game speed. Next year I would the completion committee will allow PI calls to be reviewed. Anyway cheer for the Colts though I think Denver smokes them.

    1. Agree. Colts won’t win…don’t think any team with a losing record should be in the post season.

      1. I never understand why the top two teams from each division do not play. Well I think I understand but am not crazy about it

        1. Money. Extend the season…give more teams a chance. That’s why. Hate it myself. Goddell wants to add two games to the regular season now.

          1. Yep. That’s what I thought it was about. I don’t know about football and I may be wrong about baseball but I seem to remember the World Series was just the two division champs.

  42. I agree with you Hadi every Patriots fan should be rooting for the Colts. I would be shocked if they went into Denver tomorrow and won the game just like I would if Carolina beat Seattle which I am hoping for especially if we beat Green Bay tomorrow.

  43. To you John….I say it is all good. I promise to try not to respond to you with regard to football. Maybe you can promise to try not to poke the bear πŸ™‚

  44. I thought the refs were pretty good actually.

    Yes, as good as Revis is, he does occasionally grab and hold. Again, I thought it was a well played game.

    I think Indy wins.

    If Denver comes to town, they may win, but I disagree that they would likely beat the Pats handily.

    Peyton Manning’s velocity on his throws is amazingly decreased.

    Also, Baltimore continued its excellent, non afraid play against the Pats in Gillette continued.

    Thus, lets look at Peyton Manning’s playoff record in Foxboro ….. not good.

    Flacco played a better game than Manning could ever play at this stage of his career.

    With all that opinion, I think Andrew Luck is coming to town and that frightens me.

    1. Fair analysis Tom. We will agree to disagree on refs. It is always one heck of a ride with the Pats. Not sure id anyone else can say that about their team.

      I’m going to sit on the deck for a bit and settle down :).

  45. Look at Peyton Manning’s record in playoffs. Its 11-12 record. When he was with the Colts his teams in the playoffs lost in New England. He does not play well there in the postseason.

        1. I think Peyton is hurting. Look at lot of his passes this year (especially the second half). A decent percentage have that wounded duck look to them.

  46. refs blew alot of penalties, Late hits, personal fowls, and also the full out holding by the o-line of the ravens several times

  47. Again great win but as a pats fan you can’t feel good when they go down 14 zip like that in a playoff game especially when your club has been known as a second half ball club this year. I think they do some serious film watching this week .

    1. Oh, my friend John, I am beyond happy !

      I dont care how they win this time of year, as long as they win.

      I’d rather they win more easily, but, I’ll take this outcome anytime.

      1. Me as well Tom but there is buts. Today’s game was a classic dog fight as I said all along. What I should have said is you can’t help but feel nervous when there known as a second half club. I’m pumped and just placed an order from the pro shop lol.

  48. Answer to Repost of today’s AccuWeather Trivia Quizzes.

    A Wind Chill Warning is issued when the wind chill is forecast to be
    A. -10 degrees or lower
    B. -15 degrees or lower
    C. -20 degrees or lower
    D. -25 degrees or lower

    I think the answer is C.

    What are the clouds that are highest in the atmosphere?
    A. Cirrus
    B. Stratus
    C. Cumulus
    D. Cumulonimbus

    The answer is A.

  49. Does a c-1 inch sound about right for Monday. Next Sunday’s game is a late one almost 7 pm good thing it’s a holiday Monday

      1. MLK for those who get it off. We do and I know Tom as well. I believe the AFC game either is decided by the pro bowl or just alternates I can’t remember .

  50. People seem to be hung up on the fact the Pats were down by 14 twice. IT DOESN’T MATTER! And none of that carries into the next game. The fact they gave up 31 points..DOES NOT MATTER. It’s the playoffs. These are ALL great teams! Anything can happen. But when the game is over, it’s done! On to the next game if you win. One goal here.

    I had to chuckle at all the Pats haters I know, with the “it’s over” talk after the first 2 TD’s, and then at the end, it was the refs’ fault that the Ravens lost.

    Same.
    Thing.
    Every.
    Time.

    Oh well, off to cause trouble. πŸ˜‰ … An update will be posted in the morning but I will leave you with these thoughts on the weather: The Monday system is going to be almost a non-event. The NWS’s worry about an active precipitation pattern is going to be completely incorrect. The expected cold/dry January pattern is in full force now, however will break in about 1 week. But that’s a lot more dry weather between now and then. And we probably will not be going all that wet even when the pattern flips to milder. There will not be any major snowstorms around here for quite some time, so be patient if that’s what you want. Goodnight. πŸ˜€

    1. Oh look. Another bear that doesn’t like poking. Agree Brian. A slow start doesn’t mean a thing. A D that takes a bit to gel doesn’t mean a thing. The final score is all that matters and these are playoffs as you said. It ain’t gonna be easy and it should not be.

  51. All that matters is you win and move on. The only thing that does matter is you don’t want to put yourself in that same position again playing better teams. Baltimore was an average team at best this year. You hand Manning, Rodgers or Wilson a 14 point lead and they probably don’t win.

        1. I mean yes I “dislike” him in a sports way when we play him, but I respect him greatly as a player and I think as a person he’s classy, and quite funny.

          1. I don’t hate manning either just against the pats. Manning and Brady I believe very good friends and both respect the hell out of each other’s talent.

  52. Husband just looked at me after that Seahawks interception and said “I don’t think we can beat the Seahawks”. Good grief ……John, do you have a guest room??

  53. We can beat the Seahawks. We can beat anyone. Will we is a different question.

    AWESOME GAME! My heart just started again. We were certainly entertained.
    I thought they would WIN a little easier than that, but I’ll take it.

    Tom was terrific! Amendola had his best game as a Patriot. And Eddleman, what can I say. Gronk was the usual gronk.

    I think the Defense let us down. Not sure what happened there.

    I’d prefer Indy, But we should handle Denver.

    I for one, can’t stand Manning. I hate him. If Denver wins, it will be nice to see
    Tom rub it in his face BIG TIME!

    Re: WEATHER
    IT SUCKS. There will be NO SNOW to speak of the rest of the way. STICK A FORK IN IT!()@(#*(!*@#()*!(@#*)(!*@#(*!(*@#(!*@(#*)!(@*#(!*@#(*!(*@#(!*@(#

    Have a great night and a super day tomorrow. Nite all. I’m tired.

    1. No snow. Well when your heading into Roxbury in the morning it will be snowing and will deliver possibly upto two inches before the changeover.

      1. Boston under 1 inch Monday. Maybe under 1/2 inch. Also the changeover if anything will be from a mix or rain to snow.

          1. There may be a period of mix or snow in Boston pre-dawn to early or mid rush hour. It’s never going to be heavy and it is going to be patchy in nature so hard to time.

  54. Today’s AccuWeather Trivia Quiz.

    On this date in 1927, how much snow did Boston get?

    A. 6 inches
    B. 8 inches
    C. 9.2 inches
    D. 10.2 inches

    Answer later today.

    1. I’ll guess on this one because I have no clue. And I’ll guess 8 because that’s my favorite number. πŸ™‚

      1. Even though 6 is my favorite number and I’m tempted, I’ll say 9.2 because 2×9=18 and 6/18 is my birthday

        I love it when we all use logic. Thank you longshot

  55. What the heck, I’ll go with C πŸ™‚ I really have no clue
    The only think I’m sure of right now is that my house is freezing! No heat since midnight – waiting on the oil tech to get here.
    Yearly furnace maintenance was done on Wednesday and since then there’s been nothing but problems ranging from an oil leak due to something not being tightened and now this!!! I’m very happy with our oil company this cold morning!

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