33 thoughts on “C-19 Chat Post – May 2 2020”

  1. Thank you TK. Thank You Doc for your post on Boxed.Com.
    Excellent. See my posts there. 🙂

  2. Thanks TK!

    On my way into work this morning there was a jogger jogging merrily along wearing a mask…around his NECK!?!?!

    I give up! 😉

  3. The first time ever the Little League World Series has been canceled. I enjoy watching it every summer and bring back memories for me as I played little league baseball for three years.

      1. I agree. I had a sense that this “pause” in our lives was so we might step back and think about how divided and disrespectful far too many are. It seems to have done the opposite, and it breaks my heart.

    1. So new cases is down, however, the tests were down quite a bit as well.
      In short, Covid-19 is running amok in Massachusetts.

        1. A couple of thoughts.

          1. Testing has not kept up with the number of cases, so numbers are still high.
          2. Some people just don’t get it. No social distancing/no masks etc.

          1. ICU usage continues a slight downward trend, which is good. Also, percentage of cases hospitalized is down to 5% from 6%.

            But, that’s about as far as the good news goes. The numbers of new cases are way too high, as well as test positivity (up a lot compared to yesterday).

            Nationally, the numbers of new cases are still staggering. 36k yesterday, and today looks like we’ll get to 28k or so (with fewer tests, because it’s Saturday). As a nation we’re testing more than we did, but we’re still well below the European average. Test positivity is well above European average.

            The only bright spot is two straight days with less than 2,000 deaths. Looks like we’ll get to around 1,700 today. Yesterday was ~ 1,900. By Monday the aggregate will be over 70k.

            To Philip’s point on joggers, I was among about 50% of runners with masks. There were a lot of people out and about today. Parks were crowded. Transmission is more difficult outdoors than indoors. However, the virus is sturdy. It’s not like the HIV virus which is fragile when exposed to air and sunlight.

            Sadly, I believe the nation is more or less on a path towards thinning the herd. It’s not herd immunity as you’d need seroprevalence of at least 40% and preferably higher for that. We’re nowhere near that. So, now the `policy’ is to thin the herd over a fairly long period of time, with haphazard and often reactive as opposed to proactive social distancing measures in place to keep R0 where it is; around 1. The hope is that treatments and vaccines will be ready soon. We’ll see. I do think Remdesivir will help. A vaccine, similar to the flu shot, would also help. Let’s hope this happens by autumn or winter. But, before that we’ll see many more tens of thousands of people die. It’s inevitable with the numbers of new cases every day.

  4. My fear is that the 2020 Boston Marathon come September is going to be a 26.2-mile Petri dish.

    1. I will be beyond amazed if they still have it. How do we have thousands coming from around the world

    2. I think there will be a race, but it’ll only be the elite runners and athletes in wheelchairs with very limited numbers of spectators. Some close family, coaches, and media in Hopkinton and at the finish line.

      I also think sports will return this year, but with no fans for the foreseeable future. That could change if the virus fizzles out (wishful thinking) or treatments and vaccines become available. I do have some hope in this regard. Will the treatments be perfect? No. But, they will help treat the severely ill, and vaccines should protect a large enough segment of the population (like the flu shot) to be very helpful.

      1. Even with the elite runners, folks are here from all over the world and the crowds will still find a way to be on top of each other. Not to mention those who have to be at the checkpoints. Sorry Joshua, but o sure hope you are not correct. Although, I won’t be surprised if you are

      2. I don’t see how to control social distancing between runners on the course itself and spectators on the sidewalks.

    1. Great photos – they made me smile! Despite the circumstances, I think those children will have some fond memories of these times.

      1. What an awesome comment. Three of my six grands and you are so right. In this time, I notice they have become closer. Funny how distancing can do that.

        I think I posted here…we have two neighborhood boys…maybe 8 or 9. They sit on opposite sides of the street and just talk. Today I think they were there for hours.

        There are so many positives to be found.

        Thank you. You sure have brought smiles to me

    2. Awesome Vicki !!

      I hope they have fun this summer, tending to it and watching whatever was planted grow.

      Reminds me of my uncle’s garden, wow, did his garden produce some good tomatoes, and thinking way back, my Papou’s garden and the corn he used to grow.

      1. Thank you Tom. Papou….what an amazing name for a grandfather. It makes me feel warm all over

  5. I was super busy today so I didn’t get to participate in the dialog here today. Jpdave – glad you found good stuff at the boxed.com link! I got our order today and couldn’t be happier. Everything was packed as I saw in the email with the “box selfie”. I was able to get bottled Dunkin coffee for our 83 year old aunt who used to have dunkin every day (can’t risk getting an 83 year old smoker with high blood pressure iced coffee. We kept having to explain that.) A lot of variety packs of snacks so we aren’t tempted to go into convenience stores as much. A rice a roni variety pack… And there was even a code for a free flower pot when you bought annies snacks. That was a nice touch!

    I like sharing any resources I find with my WHW friends.

    My friends keep getting surprised when I am right about things. I said we would see paper towels back in plentiful supply first. Then toilet paper will be easier to find. Then hand sanitizer. Sure enough paper towels are easy to find. Toilet paper is slowly becoming less scarce. And a friend texted me they’ve seen travel size hand sanitizer at a few convenience stores. The warmer weather coming up combined with a flattening of the curve will lead to a complacency. I’m expecting by June to be able to stock up on lysol (which is the only thing I could run out of relatively soon. I like the aerosolized spray.) People say to me “what happens if there’s no second curve” and to that I’ve said “I’d rather buy a snowblower for winter and not have a need for it than break my back trying to shovel in a blizzard.”

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