When the pandemic first began I do recall reading an article from a medical expert that suggested the virus can travel as far as 25 feet.
I can’t find this, Philip. Do you by chance have a link or source name? Not doubting it at all but would like to read reasoning as this would surely impact much of what we are doing.
It was from an article in the Boston Herald, back in late March maybe?
I am probably the only poster here who still reads hard copy newspapers as opposed to online.
Actually I did post that info here, and A-rod at the time, responded and disagreed that the virus could travel that far.
Perhaps there is still much to learn about this coronavirus yet?
It’s airborn!!!
It sure is but 30 feet I think has been discredited.
I just heard the question about this asked about a law suit at Bakers presser. I’m assuming this How self serving and entitled we have become.
Frivolous nature of so many law suits, including this one.
U.S. deaths are over 133k. Worldwide deaths over 541k. Crude case fatality rate of U.S. and world are now aligned at around 4.4%. Worldodometer updates every 10 minutes. Also adjusts for changes in death and case count, as well as numbers of serious/critical patients. More timely than CDC and other entities.
Today’s data, as well as the rest of this week, should be more complete.
Spanish study throws cold water on the herd immunity argument. About 5.5% seroprevalence, which means many are still susceptible to getting the virus. If I had to guess I’d say the U.S. seroprevalence is around 7% right now.
English Premier League (soccer) is up and running for several weeks now, and testing frequently. And not really in a bubble. The teams travel and play in their home and away regular stadiums, without fans. They do have very strict rules, which players and staff clearly are adhering to: most recent test revealed 1 positive case out of 2,250 players and staff tested.
I’ve said this repeatedly, Americans are not great at rule followings. Sometimes that’s a good thing. In a pandemic, that’s not a good thing.
MLB and NFL will certainly be good testing grounds for American sports. We will see what happens here.
Speaking of the Covid page, how about some KARMA!
Now why can’t it happen here!!!
Joshua, what are your thoughts regarding the new CDC distancing guidelines of 30 feet that the virus can travel?
Am I understanding this correctly?
I don’t think it is new if you saw in March?? Or did you see it more recently? To me March says the caution was in place before we knew much about the novel Coronavirus.
With the talk of the Plague it happens every year that several people get it but its such a small amount of people it never gets attention. Its getting attention now because of covid just like the new swine flu that was found in China. Hopefully china learns not to eat diseased animals.
Philip, 30 feet seems a little far for the virus to travel, survive the flight in tact, land on or near your mouth or nose, somehow get in you mouth and nose, start replicating like a bandit, and make you sick.
But, I am NOT a pathologist or epidemiologist. I follow the 6 foot rule as best I can outdoors and indoors. I’m very careful indoors, for example in grocery stores or pharmacies – about the only indoor places I’ve been in since mid March.
I may have had the virus, but I’m going to wait until the antibody tests are better. They’re still not great. A friend of mine tested positive, then with a different test a week later tested negative. He is from NYC. I’ve heard this from others.
My son has tested negative twice for antibodies and once
for the virus itself. So far, so good, but he is back at work and
my wife and I are worried sick.
Although I agree that Biden isn’t perfect by any stretch, but
compared to that freakin moron in the white house, he would
be a godsend!
At least Biden has a brain and can read unlike the turd in
the white house.
Governor Baker just signed an executive order of sorts to allow for voters to mail in ballots, due to Covid-19 concerns. Voters don’t have to provide a reason.
I wish I could vote for Baker for President. I’m not at all thrilled with Biden, or any Democrat except a few moderates who’ve dropped out.
I’m a boring centrist and I want drama- and revolution-free, competent government. Not something people gravitate to these days.
I would vote for baker in a heartbeat. AlsoKasich. Or Romney. It has been my belief for years that we need a moderate republican for president. We have proven in MA that it works. Remember, since 1900, we have had more years with both republican governors and senators than dems. Romney shot himself in the foot by choosing an ultra right running mate. McCain also….sadly.
Arizona is reporting 117 deaths today, as well as 3,600 cases. In terms of cases the state is about to pass Massachusetts, either tomorrow or Thursday.
As I said a couple of days ago, look for a big jump in deaths nationwide on Tuesday (I predicted we’d get to or over 1,000/day this week), some of which is backfill as states either didn’t report or under-reported in recent days.
ICU capacity in Florida is maxed out at many hospitals. Same in Alabama, Texas, Arizona. There’s growing concern about South Carolina, Nevada, Arkansas, and North Carolina.
Yet, I still see governors from certain states – today, Missouri – traveling to the WH for meetings (well, praise the leader talks). Why? Do they know about Zoom? Why did Pence travel to 6 states in 10 days, hold indoor events with massive numbers of people, putting many, including his large entourage, at risk? Trump is on his way to Florida soon. It’s almost like these people have ADHD. They’re constantly on the move. I just don’t get it. Look at the UK, Ireland, practically all of Europe, Japan, Korea, Australia, Canada, New Zealand. The leaders are staying put, not accumulating frequent flyer miles. They’re not doing summits. At all this year. There is also NO need to in this day and age. They’re taking vacations this summer, but all close to home, within driving distance.
The Great One has spoken:
President Donald Trump has been clear about where he stands in the debate over whether schools should resume in-person learning amid the global pandemic, tweeting Monday in all-caps that “SCHOOLS MUST OPEN IN THE FALL!!!”
I’m glad that is finally settled.
Fortunately, we live in an area of the country where common sense prevails…..as much as possible because no one is perfect.
First time since March no deaths today from COVID 19 in CT!!!
That’s good.
Tale of two countries, however, as the south and southwest are seeing that they can’t avoid death being a lagging indicator. What must worry everyone is that death is occurring in a younger population. Not to the degree that death was happening in NY. But still. We’re seeing a significant spike in deaths across the hot spots. I was hoping that this could be avoided. That somehow the new treatments would be miraculous, and that the lower median age of those testing positive would pull us through. Alas, today’s data, and likely the rest of the week, are telling us differently.
If this continues, unfortunately, the U.S. will not have reopening of most schools in the fall, will not recover in a normal sense economically (I’m talking main street, not wall street – the two have become totally disconnected), and will be mired in a public health fiasco of its own making. It’s embarrassing to have this level of gross incompetence.
U.S. Deaths = 130,100
Updated CDC Guidelines = 30+ feet apart (indoors).
When the pandemic first began I do recall reading an article from a medical expert that suggested the virus can travel as far as 25 feet.
I can’t find this, Philip. Do you by chance have a link or source name? Not doubting it at all but would like to read reasoning as this would surely impact much of what we are doing.
It was from an article in the Boston Herald, back in late March maybe?
I am probably the only poster here who still reads hard copy newspapers as opposed to online.
Actually I did post that info here, and A-rod at the time, responded and disagreed that the virus could travel that far.
Perhaps there is still much to learn about this coronavirus yet?
It’s airborn!!!
It sure is but 30 feet I think has been discredited.
I just heard the question about this asked about a law suit at Bakers presser. I’m assuming this How self serving and entitled we have become.
https://plymouth.wickedlocal.com/news/20200706/plymouth-business-owner-sues-governor-over-mask-mandate
Agree.
Frivolous nature of so many law suits, including this one.
U.S. deaths are over 133k. Worldwide deaths over 541k. Crude case fatality rate of U.S. and world are now aligned at around 4.4%. Worldodometer updates every 10 minutes. Also adjusts for changes in death and case count, as well as numbers of serious/critical patients. More timely than CDC and other entities.
Today’s data, as well as the rest of this week, should be more complete.
Spanish study throws cold water on the herd immunity argument. About 5.5% seroprevalence, which means many are still susceptible to getting the virus. If I had to guess I’d say the U.S. seroprevalence is around 7% right now.
English Premier League (soccer) is up and running for several weeks now, and testing frequently. And not really in a bubble. The teams travel and play in their home and away regular stadiums, without fans. They do have very strict rules, which players and staff clearly are adhering to: most recent test revealed 1 positive case out of 2,250 players and staff tested.
I’ve said this repeatedly, Americans are not great at rule followings. Sometimes that’s a good thing. In a pandemic, that’s not a good thing.
MLB and NFL will certainly be good testing grounds for American sports. We will see what happens here.
Speaking of the Covid page, how about some KARMA!
Now why can’t it happen here!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/americas/brazil-bolsonaro-positive-coronavirus-intl/index.html
Joshua, what are your thoughts regarding the new CDC distancing guidelines of 30 feet that the virus can travel?
Am I understanding this correctly?
I don’t think it is new if you saw in March?? Or did you see it more recently? To me March says the caution was in place before we knew much about the novel Coronavirus.
With the talk of the Plague it happens every year that several people get it but its such a small amount of people it never gets attention. Its getting attention now because of covid just like the new swine flu that was found in China. Hopefully china learns not to eat diseased animals.
Philip, 30 feet seems a little far for the virus to travel, survive the flight in tact, land on or near your mouth or nose, somehow get in you mouth and nose, start replicating like a bandit, and make you sick.
But, I am NOT a pathologist or epidemiologist. I follow the 6 foot rule as best I can outdoors and indoors. I’m very careful indoors, for example in grocery stores or pharmacies – about the only indoor places I’ve been in since mid March.
I may have had the virus, but I’m going to wait until the antibody tests are better. They’re still not great. A friend of mine tested positive, then with a different test a week later tested negative. He is from NYC. I’ve heard this from others.
My son has tested negative twice for antibodies and once
for the virus itself. So far, so good, but he is back at work and
my wife and I are worried sick.
Although I agree that Biden isn’t perfect by any stretch, but
compared to that freakin moron in the white house, he would
be a godsend!
At least Biden has a brain and can read unlike the turd in
the white house.
Governor Baker just signed an executive order of sorts to allow for voters to mail in ballots, due to Covid-19 concerns. Voters don’t have to provide a reason.
I wish I could vote for Baker for President. I’m not at all thrilled with Biden, or any Democrat except a few moderates who’ve dropped out.
I’m a boring centrist and I want drama- and revolution-free, competent government. Not something people gravitate to these days.
I would vote for baker in a heartbeat. AlsoKasich. Or Romney. It has been my belief for years that we need a moderate republican for president. We have proven in MA that it works. Remember, since 1900, we have had more years with both republican governors and senators than dems. Romney shot himself in the foot by choosing an ultra right running mate. McCain also….sadly.
Arizona is reporting 117 deaths today, as well as 3,600 cases. In terms of cases the state is about to pass Massachusetts, either tomorrow or Thursday.
As I said a couple of days ago, look for a big jump in deaths nationwide on Tuesday (I predicted we’d get to or over 1,000/day this week), some of which is backfill as states either didn’t report or under-reported in recent days.
ICU capacity in Florida is maxed out at many hospitals. Same in Alabama, Texas, Arizona. There’s growing concern about South Carolina, Nevada, Arkansas, and North Carolina.
Yet, I still see governors from certain states – today, Missouri – traveling to the WH for meetings (well, praise the leader talks). Why? Do they know about Zoom? Why did Pence travel to 6 states in 10 days, hold indoor events with massive numbers of people, putting many, including his large entourage, at risk? Trump is on his way to Florida soon. It’s almost like these people have ADHD. They’re constantly on the move. I just don’t get it. Look at the UK, Ireland, practically all of Europe, Japan, Korea, Australia, Canada, New Zealand. The leaders are staying put, not accumulating frequent flyer miles. They’re not doing summits. At all this year. There is also NO need to in this day and age. They’re taking vacations this summer, but all close to home, within driving distance.
The Great One has spoken:
President Donald Trump has been clear about where he stands in the debate over whether schools should resume in-person learning amid the global pandemic, tweeting Monday in all-caps that “SCHOOLS MUST OPEN IN THE FALL!!!”
I’m glad that is finally settled.
Fortunately, we live in an area of the country where common sense prevails…..as much as possible because no one is perfect.
First time since March no deaths today from COVID 19 in CT!!!
That’s good.
Tale of two countries, however, as the south and southwest are seeing that they can’t avoid death being a lagging indicator. What must worry everyone is that death is occurring in a younger population. Not to the degree that death was happening in NY. But still. We’re seeing a significant spike in deaths across the hot spots. I was hoping that this could be avoided. That somehow the new treatments would be miraculous, and that the lower median age of those testing positive would pull us through. Alas, today’s data, and likely the rest of the week, are telling us differently.
If this continues, unfortunately, the U.S. will not have reopening of most schools in the fall, will not recover in a normal sense economically (I’m talking main street, not wall street – the two have become totally disconnected), and will be mired in a public health fiasco of its own making. It’s embarrassing to have this level of gross incompetence.
Trump has always (long before he ran for president) reminded me of the `great and powerful Wizard of Oz:’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RQxD4Ff7dY
So sad and yes….difference was the wizard was contrite when discovered….trump doesn’t even have that going for him
Perhaps the emperor who wore no clothes
C-19 for 7-8 is up…