26 thoughts on “C-19 Chat Post – August 13 2020”

    1. Making it clear. These do not in any way represent the vast majority of parents who want their kids in school. But this is simply not acceptable

  1. I noticed some towns changed last night to the color codes indicating an increase in covid cases in the recent days.

    About 2 and 1/2 weeks til teachers return and 5 weeks til students return (With the start date now being Sept 16th).

    All of the energy being used whether one´s view is full return, hybrid or full remote will probably end up being wasted energy as the what category cities and towns fall into will probably be different by then and then that district is going to have to switch to a different model anyway.

    1. Agree. We are having an uptick….VERY small but still…in Sutton. Our town officials said it is due to younger folks tired of quarantine getting together. We have an emergency SC meeting tonight. I will be interested to see if SC goes against superintendent. Truly I hate this for everyone….decent folks who simply want what is right for their kids. I am clearly in favor of full remote for reasons I have made painfully (sorry) clear. But I have equal sympathy for folks who want their children in school and for every single teacher no matter the final choices

  2. Middleborough voted to go “hybrid” beginning around September 15. Teachers will have 10 PD days to prep, starting August 31. There are four cohorts: Cohort 1 = moderately and severely special needs students who will attend in-person every day to receive their services; Cohorts 2 and 3 will be rotate on a two-week schedule and attend in-person classes and on-line learning on an equal basis throughout a 10-day period.

    AT MHS, Cohort 2 will be Grades 10 and 11 and Cohort 3 are the freshmen and seniors. I will be assigned to Cohort 2 for the fall semester.

    Cohort 4 will be the students whose families have chosen to “do” all remote-learning from home.

    1. I wish for you the very best. My heart does ache.

      Will your all remote be your teachers or a MA online program?

      1. I believe I heard the super say that Middleborough kids will be taught by Middleborough teachers.

        1. Thank you. Good news. I also mentioned to my daughters that I like your plan for cohort 1. With all of the listening and reading I have done….and I’ve done a ton….I have not seen it mentioned. Both their towns are doing the same. I’m really happy to hear that

  3. Good luck to the teachers on this blog, like Tom and CF. It’s going to be a challenge, especially the hybrid model. I’m unsure how well that will work. In fact, I’m skeptical about its efficacy, both in terms of safety and education.

    Covid-19 update: New daily cases continue to descend nationwide, but the downward slope is less pronounced this week. Unfortunately, the last two days have been our worst in nearly 3 months with respect to numbers of deaths from Covid-19. Nevertheless, I believe that the week’s numbers will show we’ve reached a plateau or are even on a descent. Hospitalizations and ICU usage are slowly declining.

    Europe’s new cases are increasing, but less pronounced increase this week than last. Also, the new cases haven’t yet resulted in a sizable uptick in hospitalizations or ICU usage. Slight increase in more than a dozen countries, but also a slight decrease in several countries experiencing an increase in cases. This must mean that many of those testing positive are relatively young.

  4. Up until this pandemic, I never realized how much we actually breathed on each other on a daily basis.

    I don’t know about all schools but Boston is installing plexiglass in their classrooms. Kind of sad but necessary I suppose.

    1. The transmission pathway for respiratory diseases is quite similar. Droplets expelled mostly through the mouth, some aerosolized, land on surfaces or go directly into another person’s nose or mouth.

      Normally, such transmission simply results in common colds and flu spreading. And while these can lead to fatalities, the numbers are far less than Covid-19. Hence, our precautions now as opposed to normal times. I do hope the normal, maskless times return within the next 12 months. I believe they will. They did by 1920 after the Spanish flu, even without a vaccine. So, it stands to reason normalcy will prevail by the summer of 2021.

      I’m actually surprised well-educated people repeat the mantra that “things will never be the same.” Here, they’re referring to business travel, conferences, schools, restaurants, professional sports and fans in attendance at games, and other things. I am sorry, but I do NOT buy that at all. A cursory glance at history will tell you that things do return to normal, as they did in 1920 without a vaccine. I do not think cities will empty out en masse, offices will cease to exist, etc … For the time being, yes, we’ve seen and will continue to see precautionary behavior, and that’s warranted. But, remote learning, telemedicine, and telework, will not replace traditional forms of education and work. They will supplement them, but not take over.

  5. Lower death numbers today nationwide. We’ll certainly be lower than yesterday and last week Thursday. I’m hoping we don’t hit 1,000 deaths. It would be the first weekday in nearly 4 weeks that we don’t hit 1,000. I do think the trend is favorable, as hospitalizations and ICU usage are past peak. Going forward this month, we’ll still have lots of deaths, but I do believe we’re headed in a downward direction.

  6. I do NOT trust the Swedish data. On most days this past week they’ve reported zero new cases. Today is typical: 0 new cases, 6 new deaths. No other nation in Europe is doing that, not even tiny ones. Something is up. Either they’re not testing at all, or fudging the numbers to make it look like the virus disappeared.

    1. Very interesting and curious indeed. I was looking at Sweden but see new cases reported. I’m sure I am looking in wrong place. Johns Hopkins tends to be confusing for me. On the world charts I click on day and see The number. Where do you find the best data Joshua?

    1. Sweden must have just added cases for yesterday (258) and the day before (418). Today’s still zero. I recall seeing zero a couple of days ago, too. I’ll check tomorrow to see if today’s number of cases is still zero.

  7. Joshua, I certainly hope your thoughts on “normalcy” will verify eventually but isn’t Covid-19 considerably more contagious than the Spanish flu was?

    I have also heard about the “new” normal with or without a vaccine. Covid-19 may very well be on this planet indefinitely as long as humans remain. Frightening thought I know.

  8. Dr. Fauci is not pleased and is very concerned with the fall between the Covid-19 and the upcoming flu season.

  9. Philip, a part of my thinking is wishful, I admit that. But, a lot of it is evidence-based. You’re right about the contagiousness of Covid-19. And, it may be around in some form for a while. But, I do believe the virus will run out of victims, if you will, whether because people have had the disease (I realize that a very small number appear to get reinfected, but so far not with a severe version), and have antibodies or have a T cell (memory) response related to other coronaviruses, adenoviruses, or rhinoviruses.

    I sincerely believe that by next year at this time, even without a vaccine, the virus will have mostly run its course worldwide.

    As for Sweden’s data reporting it’s really strange. To report deaths and not cases, and then retroactively report cases a day or two later, is bizarre. We have a couple of Southern states that do that (Louisiana and North Carolina).

    As for today’s deaths they went over 1,000, alas. Will probably wind up around 1,150 or so, less than last Thursday, but still a high number.

  10. Thank you. I always loved August nights that dipped into 50s. Son and grandson just stopped by to pick up Thule for camping in VT this weekend. It’ll be perfect camping weather

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