Cold Renewal

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7:42AM

It’s getting simple. Widespread upper level low pressure will dominate eastern Canada extending into the northeastern US starting in a few days and lasting for quite a while. Transitioning out of the current mild spell and toward that renewed cold pattern with a few disturbances passing through this coming weekend – none of them significant. Will keep an eye on the colder pattern next week for snow threats but it looks largely dry. Hints in the medium range at a snow threat late next week, and before that the midweek threat should be offshore and not an impact. Again the main story will become the cold air.

Forecast for southeastern New England…

TODAY: Patchy fog & low clouds early, then sunshine & a few clouds remainder of the day. Highs in the 40s. Wind SW up to 10 MPH.

TONIGHT: Clouds return. Lows around 25-35 valleys to South Coast. Wind light variable.

SATURDAY: Mostly cloudy. Periods of snow/mix showers inland and rain showers coast. No snow accumulation. Highs around 40. Wind variable 5-15 MPH.

SATURDAY NIGHT: Variably cloudy. Chance of snow or rain showers early. Watch for icy patches on the ground later at night. Lows in the 20s. Wind W 5-15 MPH.

SUNDAY: Partly sunny. Chance of snow showers. Highs in the 30s. Wind W 10-20 MPH with higher gusts.

MONDAY – MLK JR DAY: Mostly sunny. Low 20. High 35.

TUESDAY: Partly cloudy. Low 10. High 20.

WEDNESDAY: Partly cloudy. Low 5. High 18.

THURSDAY: Mostly sunny. Low 0. High 15.

FRIDAY: Increasing clouds. Low -5. High 18.

285 thoughts on “Cold Renewal”

  1. Wow–I’ve been first a couple of times lately. Thanks TK and thanks, Vicki and Sue for pushing that Saturday storm away; it’s really is amazing what hair dryers can do.

  4. IF there is storminess that develops along the east coast following the cold air invasion, i could easily see storms get shunted south and the mid atlantic region getting in on the snow while we remain cold and dry.

      1. Very true, but you have to know that it will NOT, NOT, NOT
        set up shop in a position that will favor storminess here.
        No way. 😀

  6. Anyone notice the 12Z nam for sat? Also a question regarding which temps to look at to best determine whether or not it will snow or rain. In the past I would look at the 850 temps which I believe is close to the surface and the 500 thickness to see the temps higher up. Both look cold enough for snow sat, but I noticed TK mention mix or rain. Thanks for the explanation in advance.

    http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/Image.php?fhr=033&image=data%2Fnam%2F12%2Fnam_namer_033_1000_500_thick.gif&model=nam&area=namer&param=1000_500_thick&group=Model+Guidance&imageSize=M

    1. Go for…

      There are many factors to consider when calling for rain, snow or mix.

      One is the temperatures at 850MB, or “approximately” 5,000 feet up in
      the atmosphere. We like that to be -3C or less, however, depending on
      conditions it can snow with 850MB right at 0. So, generally we are looking
      at 850MB temps to be LESS than 0C, with conditions of course.

      Next is the 1000-500MB thickness. This is a measurement of how cold the lower levels of the atmosphere are. Generally speaking we like to be within
      the 540 line, however, once again it can snow with thicknesses above that
      depending on conditions.

      OF course, we still have to look at surface temperatures. Doesn’t do much good if thicknesses are fine and 850mb temperatures are fine IF the surface temperature is 45. In the case for Saturday, TK indicated that the temp
      would be around 40 Degrees or so.

      There is still another factor, precipitation intensity.

      With conditions on Saturday, were it to come down hard, NO QUESTION it
      would be ALL in the form of SNOW. BUT since temperatures at the surface
      are very marginal, it is likely to Rain or Mix when it comes down a little harder
      and possibly straight snow during periods IF it comes down hard enough.

      There are other thicknesses that are also used, such as:
      1000-850hPa
      1000 – 700hPa
      850-700hPa
      850-500hPa

      And when it is precipitating and Mets are Now Casting, they use the new
      Doppler Di-Pol Radar.

      Hope this helps. 😀

        1. I’m not a Met, so I can’t give you a precise answer.

          I use http://www.instantweathermaps.com

          Where I can get charts showing the 2M temperature, which is the correct one to use for the surface temperature. There is an actual surface temperature chart, but in my opinion, that is useless.

          But those are probably produced by some mathematical algorithms based from the 850MB temperatures.

          BUT a rule of thumb and a “reasonable” approximation to the surface temperature is to take the 850MB temperature in Fahrenheit and add 27.5 (It warms approximately 5.5F each 1000 feet Or conversely it falls 5.5 F every 1000 feet rise in altitude. This is also known as the dry adiabatic lapse rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapse_rate) to it to come
          up with the surface temperature. It is NOT exact and that little formula will change based on whether it is clear or cloudy or precipitating as that changes the rate of change with altitude.

          For example, let’s say the 850MB temperature is
          -5C (23F). The we could “approximate” the surface temperature by adding 27.5 to it or 50.5. That works best under normal clear conditions. For tomorrow, probably can’t use the dry lapse rate, but closer to the saturated lapse rate of 3F per 1000 feet.

          You get the idea.

          You can also look at this:

          http://www.theweatherprediction.com/habyhints/278/

          Or this.

          http://smittyswxupdate.blogspot.com/2011/06/use-850-mb-to-forecast-surface.html

    1. I have been wearing my light weight jacket for an entire week in the middle
      of January!!! 😀 😀

      1. And the kids have been riding there bikes everyday, my kids love riding bikes, and love roller blading, and football lol

  8. Good morning everyone, as I look at models, I do not see any real snow events, it gets chilly but still no snow
    Positive note: daylight is longer by 40 min’s already 🙂

  9. It appears Tuesday is the beginning of the colder air, but after that temps moderate towards next weekend, it may be only a few degrees each day milder but it’s moderating, and while we are gaining 2 min’s of daylight per day, I’m not saying winters over yet, but it’s slowly changing, even now 🙂

    1. When it gets to March we can start talking about Winter possibly being over,
      Certainly NOT in mid-January and February.

      And, even in March, we get some of our biggest Snow Storms.
      (Sometimes even early April. 😀 :D)

      No Winter is not over, NOT EVEN CLOSE.

      2. I don’t think of March as winter, ill be outside working, even after last yrs suprise mid march snowstorm, we were working a week after bc it melted so very quick. I go through this every year getting prepared to start in March, believe me there are comp out there now, there was only 1 yr it really got the better of me, that was 1996 almost 20 yrs ago, plus my pool goes up in mid April 🙂
        Dec/Jan/Feb is off time, every single other month is work time 🙂

        1. The snow last march, at least at my house stayed around a lot longer than any snow we had so far this winter

          1. I was able to get 450 clients done out of 600 clients before April 1st last yr, the 150 clients were west and north and around Boston were held off till late March and early April, but I understand am

        2. It doesn’t mean Winter is over. It just means people in your profession start the outside stuff like that while it is still Winter.

          I have been in this business 24 years and the dates of the seasons still haven’t changed. 😉

      1. I understand, but again I don’t think of dec as fall time just like I don’t think of March as winter, or Sept as summer, it seems to work for me 🙂

    1. If we don’t get any snow or very little snow out of the next couple weeks when conditions are forecast to be conducive for snow, then i will be joining your camp coastal.

  11. Lol tk I know the seasons haven’t changed, it is just the profession, we r always ahead by 3-4 weeks ahead of actual season, if that makes any sense, but your right, the seasons haven’t changed lol 🙂 thanks tk 🙂

  12. TK thanks for the update!!!

    Air smells like spring again today. I think it is in part more the smell of the wet/thawed earth but I love it.

    Anyone know why the squirrels are digging holes in my lawn?

      1. I’m going to look for my gun if they don’t stop — I agree with OS.

        (ps – I dont own a gun so it might take some time to find it 😉 )

            1. I release them about a mile from the house. (Not even sure this is legal, but I do it anyway as I don’t want them around)

              1. Nice – I am not a fan either but the chipmunks seem to do much more damage and those darned little buggers are cute. Wonder how smart squirrels are when it comes to returning “home”

  19. Winter is definitely not over. After the close of this month, we’ve got February to contend with, and then March. March is rarely spring-like around these parts, so I would not include it under spring. If anything, March and early April are frustrating to spring-lovers as they offer the promise of spring but no fulfillment. Sort of like unrequited love.

    All this said, I agree with Charlie on the light/brightness factor. I notice it on my morning runs. And, despite it getting colder next week (at least we think it will), ice formation on ponds, lakes, and rivers will be harder to achieve than it was even 2 weeks ago. And, as we approach February and March snows (I do think we’ll get plenty more snow chances), daytime accumulation will be harder to achieve as well.

    1. This is a really nice graphic that this model provides. I love it.

      If all goes well, we could see a touch of snow tomorrow. We shall see.

      1. There will be snow showers in the air around these parts thats all you will see. No sticking around these parts.

    2. Oh the irony of it all. Tomorrow might be our only shot at precip for a while during this colder period and its likely to be RAIN. Ughhh

    2. What was most interesting to me was the part about effects on other parts of the globe. One guy said when the jet stream changes configuration to allow really cold air into northern Europe, a counter effect is warming over Greenland. Does that mean it warms into North America too? I wonder

    1. they should have gone out a few days ago to get use to the air, though denver is tring all it can to make it harder for the patriots. they should have gone to colorado and went to another field or something to practice out in the air. but no. they decided to wait till friday so they only have one practice before the game in the thin air. which is stupid.

      2. Matt, a couple more days in the thin air wont make a difference. It takes a lot longer for your body to get used to functioning with less oxygen, months, even years of intense training for your red blood cells to adapt to hold onto more oxygen. The one thing i will say is a couple more days would allow players to gauge their physical limitations and recognize certain signals in their bodies. Other than that, not much of a difference.

  24. scattered rain showers saturday afternoon
    mid week storm out to sea. temps moderate into the 40s next weekend. mid atlantic gets some snow and rain

  25. Weather in Denver is way too nice on Sunday (close to 60 and sunny). That will likely factor in to Denver’s win. Manning has no problem in weather like that. The Patriots, on the other hand, will not be able to resort to a running game. Without weapons/targets in the passing game, the Patriots’ offense is unlikely to be effective. Of course, I’m hoping for a miracle, but my prediction is: Denver 34, New England 17. This may be the only game this year in which the Patriots don’t really keep it close.

    1. A couple of retorts…

      1. What makes you think Manning will have a good game? Sure it is more
      likely he craps his pants in bad weather, but he is very good at Sh**ting his
      drawers in good weather as well. Look for Manning to throw at least 2
      interceptions.
      2. Why can’t the Patriots run? The thin air (what about rotation), the Denver
      defense? give me a break.
      3. The Patriots offense likely to be ineffective? huh? au contraire my friend.
      The Pat’s offense will light up Denver. I mean LIGHT EM UP! Mark my
      words.

      The only way Denver wins is for Manning to have the game of his life.

      My Prediction:

      Pats 42
      Denver 28

      1. The Pats game plan should be and i think will be, to try and keep manning off the field. To do that, they need to control the clock and they NEED to run the ball. If Denver’s D stops them from doing that and they become predictable, all bets are off bc the Pats dont have the weapons to keep up with Manning. Even with a good defensive game plan against manning, he will still put up points.

        1. With Denver’s defense, If need be, I think Tom can
          still light him up with Edelman, Amendola, Vareen and now I think Dobson will be ready. He can do it. 😀
          He can mix in Calle and Hooman.

      2. I hope you’re right.

        Manning has had his share of bad playoff performances, and I can’t stand him. But: 1. He’s got a better supporting cast; 2. He’s home. If only Amendola had caught the ball for a touchdown on the final drive against Miami in Week 16, the Patriots would be home, and that would give them a decisive edge. Pats don’t lose at home. And, weather tends to be worse at Foxboro. Alas, they’re on the road, in a place they’ve had a very poor record over the years.

        We’ll see, OS.

        1. Hmmm, Amendola not catching a would be clutch pass late in that game, sounds like someone else we know… 🙂 Turned out to be a pretty even swap

        2. The fact that the Pat’s have had a history of piss-poor
          performances at Denver has me concerned, but I think
          this is the year they overcome that. 😀

  26. Why are there no storms even on the horizon? With this pattern setting up there should be east coast storm development. Models say no. Do we think they are missing something?

    1. Fast northern stream flow around the PV. Lack of southern stream energy/moisture. The very dry southwestern US is starting to play a role in lack of storm development further east.

  29. Brady voted most hated QB – did someone already say that? Seriously? I cannot imagine what anyone sees not to like – and I am not saying that because he is the pats QB. He is just an all around good person. Never trash talks. Keeps his focus on the game. Doesn’t make excuses. Great family man. Jealous much !!!

    1. Agree, agree, agree! Hated by whom? Fans? Players? In either case, it borders on insanity to vote him Brady the most hated QB. He’s a great QB, a true team leader, intelligent, and a good person. What’s not to like? As you pointed out, it’s all about jealousy.

    3. People always “hate” winners.
      It’s driven by jealousy.
      I’d rather be happy for someone who is successful in both their profession and their personal life. Brady is a great example of both.

  30. Some people here not giving pats a chance at all. I find it funny. The pats have as much chance to win Sunday as does Denver. Denver is s good team real good, you all know I picked them to go all the way. But going w pats. Something tells me they get the job done without trouble doing it.

  31. Game will be close. And in a close game always take Brady. But I really don’t know who is going to win.

      1. Game should be great to watch regardless of the outcome.

        So many National pundits think that the Patriots have no chance!
        Time to prove them wrong!

        1. I have said before that I much prefer when the pats are the underdogs – and no it doesn’t happen much – but even within the game. I do not care what spreads are, what experts say, what anyone else thinks — they’d be fools if they thought they could predict what the pats will do. Win or lose they have come much further than most expected……including until I screwed my head back on right 🙂

  33. Don’t read too much into details on surface charts beyond Tuesday. Pay attention to the general pattern. The models (GFS, Euro, and others) will have trouble deciding which shortwaves to develop more and which ones to leave alone. It happens every time we enter this pattern. A good example of this is the snowstorm on yesterday’s 12z ECMWF for the 25th, and today’s 12z run has a threat a few days earlier with nothing much for the 25th.

    1. The euro for me right now is like having a girlfriend who has cheated on u in the past. You decide to stay together and work it out, buuut its always in the back of ur mind.

  36. pats game is going to be a close one first half pats will go out shooting first time to try and get the first points, then establish the running game to open up the passing game in the second half. but balanced., not going to post any numbers because the last time i did that we lost. the score was the exact opposite. i hope they kick off first.

  37. No one of course can predict the outcome of a game with certaintity, but I think the Patriots best chance is to dissect the opponent and take advantage of glaring and not so glaring weaknesses. A glaring weakness may be that Harris is out for the season. A not so glaring weakness, to the average fan, is that Denver is one of the worst on special teams. I would not be surprised to see BB take full advantage of the latter.

    1. Then again, perhaps not.

      Take a look at this 4KM WRF model output of the freezing levels at
      10AM tomorrow:

      http://i.imgur.com/QJJfQE2.jpg

      For the Boston area, the freezing level is progged to be between 1200
      and 2400 feet. Unless it’s REALLY coming down, that is enough
      room to allow for significant if Not total melting of any snow flakes.
      (That spells RAIN!)

      Even though all other parameters look good for snow.

      I just found this handy little tool. Nice to have. 😀

  39. Eight franchise execs were asked if they would take Brady or manning. Years ago, it was 4-4. Now 7-1 Brady. Ok I’ll stop talking about football. Sorry. I’m a bit excited 🙂

  40. Thanks TK! Do you think that there will be enough snow accumulation for it to impact the roads Monday morning? Or for there to be shoveling?

    1. Only if we happen to get an organized line of snow showers or a few isolated squalls. Don’t think so though.

  41. This is not good!
    California Gov. Jerry Brown on Friday declared a drought emergency for the state, saying it is facing “perhaps the worst drought that California has ever seen since records (began) about 100 years ago.

    1. My husband was talking to his brother. He lives in Moraga. Just outside of San Francisco. It is not good at all….esp with fire season

  42. Just sat out for about an hour while mac grilled. Couldn’t get the four seasons song out of my mind …..Oh what a night….late December back in 63….

    No jacket. Just a heavy sweatshirt. The stars are amazing. Sure does not feel like 33

  44. California’s really going through a rough time. Worst drought in 100 years. Remember this past summer’s wildfires at Yosemite. Now, wildfires are appearing in many places, and it’s not even spring or summer.

    Hopefully the fact that almost no-one nationally is giving the Patriots a chance (and yes, this includes me) motivates this very likable team. Obviously, I am rooting for the Patriots. Several times, they proved me wrong this year, and I hope they continue to prove me wrong. I just don’t have a good feeling about Sunday, given the venue and noise level, the weather, and the fact that the Broncos lost to the Patriots in an embarrassing way earlier this season. I believe the latter will motivate the Broncos.

        1. Vicki I was not negative I was speaking the truth at that time. I’m a huge fan and if they struggle I’m not going to suger coat it. They have had struggled and have done a good job to overcome them.

            1. Adding. They actually have not struggled. That’s what so many didnt get. Many here included …you and I among them. Maybe TK and my son in law two of the few who were not. They simply persevered.

  45. Huh I watched nfl live etc.. Today and most pundits have the pats winning. So I think you all are referencing more the fans and some few pundits bc everything I see has the Pats winning.

        1. Nah. They are split – not Vegas. The point is that it simply does not matter. Maybe with another team it would but this team, win or lose, is completely unpredictable.

  48. I think it just depends on what type of fan you are. I’ve always loved this team since 1985, it’s my favorite as you all know outa the 4 pro sports teams. I’m what you call a honk Patriot fan, I always believe, I always think they have a chance. Im hearing some saying the Patriots have no chance, and some that think the broncos will choke.
    Go Patriots,, 1 win from Superbowl #8 🙂 goodnight

  50. TK, what do you think we get the water temperature down east of Boston with the next cold snap. Currently 39.4. Think we can shave a couple of that?

    1. I am certanly not TK, but if it stays well below normal for the rest of the month as Pete has been saying on air, the water temp should easily coast down at least a couple more degrees to around 36 or 37F which is the average lowest for Boston Buoy anyway. 🙂

    3. One year down here, perhaps in the 2002-2006 stretch, there was a cold enough January where the inner harbors had a lot of ice in them (its tough to get a solid cover with a 9 ft tidal range) and from the beach to about the end of jetties, there was some slush puppy water.

      1. I can’t remember the year either. The river had frozen all through Humarock. All of the pilons (sp) where boats dock were literally pushed up out of the river bottom at the bridge in Humarock. My youngest thinks it was dec 2005-jan 2006. A guess

  51. Well that bodes well for Feb. We are missing on a nice little storm today. But euro holds out hope for Friday for a moderate event. Euro led the way with today’s event so maybe something can happen on Friday.

  52. There are a few lightning strikes with that low pressure area over the fish. I don’t put much stock with that storm threat late next week but one thing that looks certain is the cold will be back and say goodbye to 50 degree plus temperatures for a while.

  53. Light rain.

    Could be an interesting radar watching morning.

    NWS gotten more bullish on their snowfall expectations N and W.

  54. Areas north of the pike looking they could have a level 1 snow event ( Coating to 4 inches) With some of the lightning strikes over the Atlantic the low pressure area is showing some signs of stregthening but doesn’t get going until its past us.
    Tom I think it was 2003 with those big chunks of ice in the inner harbor. I am not buying the EURO for later next week. I think the cold dry airmass will keep that low pressure center over the fish. I hope I am wrong.

      1. To husbands knowledge sandy burr not open this time of yr. IMHO it’ll ruin course. Didn’t look like temporary greens but not positive in that

  62. Snow coating everything but rd in Sudbury. River looking very good. Level where it would be considered good for time of year. SIL said same for where it runs behind his office bldg

  64. Saw a graphic on NWS Boston fb page last night saying while there’s no denying the arctic air is coming, the lack of snow cover in parts of new england and the northeast, the cold air will have less of an impact as last time when we had a deep snowpack. It will still be cold, but the difference between records broken and just downright cold.

  65. Elevated convection is pretty potent. I’m impressed. Beware of some positive lightning strikes south of Boston to the Boston area this hour, maybe a bit north of Boston not long from now.

  67. Absolutely huge flakes here. Heavy enough that everything is now covered and totally white. Kids heading out to play……by kids I meant 28 yr old and his 6 yr old son

  68. Snowing heavily in Pelham, NH, 32.7 degrees with about a half inch on the ground. The precip seems to be moving south to north with very little easterly movement. Is there a chance the Merrimack Valley could see a couple inches of snow?

    1. I think the valley itself stands less chance and elevated areas around it have a better shot of picking up accumulation, but some of that intensity would help. Granted it is already colder there, so they won’t need as much “help” .. but I can see up to a 2+ inches somewhere around there if everything comes together just right in the next few hours.

    1. Quick 1/2 to 1 inch on unpaved surfaces through 1PM. I think it tapers off after that a little bit.

  72. It’s been snowing quite nicely here in westboro with big wet flakes and 2 inches of packed snow has fallen

  73. Snowing moderately in Sudbury – very picturesque – big flakes and little or no wind. Everything covered. We have about 1 inch of heavy, wet snow.

  75. Solid moderate snow in Woburn – starting to cover unpaved ground.

    I remember several days ago crawling out on a limb to forecast a chance of snow today when other outlets had “mostly sunny” on their day 5 or 6 forecast. That made me nervous at the time. The forecast was arrived at based on what I thought model error was at the time. It’s an example of knowing when to follow guidance and when to abandon it.

    1. I just wrote a FB post about that on my regular FB page:

      “OMG those are the biggest snowflakes I have ever seen!” .. Before you say that, you’re looking at lots of snowflakes stuck together. Perfect conditions: marginal temperatures allowing wet flakes to stick to each other on the way down, and little wind to break them back apart. Classic feather flakes in much of eastern MA right now. Enjoy the view because it won’t last that long.

  82. went outsdie tried to open my mouth and eat the snow the flakes are bigger than my mouth 😉 visibilites less than a half mile. everything coated it took 5 minutes to do so. 32 degrees here boarderline

    1. You are seeing the deformation zone between snow secondary to evaporational cooling from above and rain to the south. All of this will be out of here within an hour but still very impressive.

  90. Still snowing in Brighton! Everything’s covered, including the roads and my satellite dish! 🙁 Guess I won’t be watching the end of “The Departed”! and it’s such a good movie.

  91. Back to rain, ended up with about 3 quarters of an inch, been out and main roads r good, back roads r slushy but there Mekong ad well, suprise suprise

  92. Coating the ground up where I am in CT with some big flakes with a moderate burst of snow. Finally looking like winter.

  93. It’s been snowing pretty hard in Quincy for almost an hour. Everything covered except roads but getting there.

  96. Started to come down here about 10 minutes ago…lawn already covered..also sidewalks. Street getting covered too except where the car tracks are…very pretty.

  99. Snow slowing down here now coming down lightly but came down pretty good for a little and got half an inch.

  100. Pouring here. 🙂 41F in fact.

    Glad everyone is getting decent snow. Living through various webcams. 🙂

  101. Slowing down here. Grandson changed from calling tha flakes faeries to cotton balls. The sure looked like cotton balls. Beautiful

  103. Big flakes were just coming down here as it lasted 5 minutes. Looks like the sun is trying to come out. We had a decent slug of rain here today.

  104. I realized I took my initial measurements in a slightly covered area next to the side of the house. Just took a measurement more out in the open in 5 different locations with an average of about 6 inches!

    1. Boy oh boy was that more than the “less than 1 inch” forecast…but it is pretty much tapering off now

      1. If your north and west of the city it’s not really surprise snow as accumulation was expected there. This could have been a nice little storm for most with probably 6 inch amounts but the warmer air seems to be hanging a tad longer. Earlier in the week it was like a 50/50 shot of maybe getting an event for most but as time went on it became clear that boston/ south and others dodge a bullet. I believe things will be getting very active real soon with the cold air knocking and not going any where. Last winter the storms came in February and early march and I’m guessing it will happen again – no snow in march as that was part of my winter prediction. But in saying that with some chatter on a possible snow event next Friday night/ Saturday Pete seems to think the cold will push the storm out, time will tell.

        2. No, it was a big surprise.

          The forecast was terrible and only adjusted at the last minute, by then being useful to people that maybe had just woken up, not the ones that were already going about their plans. 😉

            1. Harvey did not have these amounts. Nobody did. We had the snow threat, just not the scope of it. I knew that we could see snow today 6 days ago but I would not have tried to call amounts then, and even last night I was minor at best and Harvey’s top numbers were 2-4 in the hills/mountains of southwestern NH. He’ll be the first to say that this forecast did not verify as expected.

  107. I didn’t measure but looked like 4-5. As large as the flakes were that could be 3standing on top of each other :)Sanders out in Framingham.

    1. You’ll probably see those sanders out and about tonight with the projected tempature drop this evening.

    2. Vicki I respectfully disagree as I’ve been saying all week there was a watcher. As the week progressed it became clear that southern sections would not see anything big there was the chance that northern, western and the mountain area still had a decent shot at a minor to moderate snow event in those sections. Enjoy the snow, take care.

  108. Wow! Once again we get accumulating snow that is very localized and not region wide. 3rd time this winter. Like TK, I mentioned we both had the idea of something for today, but truthfully by Thursday I had abandoned the idea of accumulations. Funny thing is NWS jumped on the idea yesterday but in western ma, where we have received about a 1/2″

    Please no one chime in that the ECMWF had this set up a week ago, because it didn’t. It might have spit out some QPF but from a very different storm evolution. Still like the idea of something around 1/25.

    1. What is your thoughts on Pete b saying he thinks the cold will push that snow threat out. Not sure I get that.

  109. Shoveled a sloppy 2.5″ in mu driveway in sharon, got to my moms in attleboro and its raining with just a coating of snow

  111. Elevation depended with this snow. There are radar estimates north of where I am of around 6 inches in the northwest hills of CT. Here only a half an inch but it came down pretty hard for about 15 20 minutes just like a thunderstorm in the summer.

  113. Still light to moderate snow here too in Holden. At 5″ even now. Might make 6″ by the look of the radar before this is over.

  114. Absolutely horrendous forecast on my part.

    I would say my worst in 2 years. 🙂

    Excellent…………………….. 😛

  115. For John… The reasoning Pete was using is simple. Too much southward push of the PV, too much westerly wind at steering level, storm that tries to form goes straight east and out to sea and can’t turn northward until it’s hundreds of miles out there. That was his mode of thinking.

  116. No snow removal here 🙂 🙂

    I just hope the skies dont suddenly clear quickly in SE Mass because the roads and walkways are still quite damp.

    Probably going to have to lower high temps tomorrow a few degrees due to snow cover ???

  117. That was interesting. Only measured 1.5 inch in yard, on car and in street

    My computer would not boot today. TOOK ME 2 HOURS to find
    The recovery cd. ALMOST done. Windows loading up.

    We shall see what I end up with.

  119. Computer operational. I have much to re-install, but at least I am connected to
    the internet.

    I still don’t know what happened.

  120. Hello!! What a little suprise
    Here are some of the totals in my area: 2.0 Foxboro, 1.3 N.Attleboro, Attleboro (seekonk line) less than a half inch.
    GO PATRIOTS!!! Less than 24hrs!!! 🙂

  121. Still snowing/raining uxbridge.

    Hadi so sorry you are not feeling well. You have had a tough few weeks illness wise on too of your back. Feel better soon

  122. What a nice surprise today….nothing I like more than surprise snow…doesn’t seem to happen as much as when I was kid but then again I wasn’t really paying attention… got an even 5″ up here in Grovel and…feels like winter again

  125. Got about 2-3″ just to the east of me by about 5-6 mile 7.5″. incredible, that in that short of a distance there can that much of a difference.

  126. Hadi feel better.
    As one of our meteorologist here in CT put it this was a sneaky storm. Most of CT saw nothing. I had an inch and half but go up in the northwest hills of CT 6-10 inches fell. The forecast last night was coating to 2 inches for that area. If only that heavier snow band came a little further south.

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