3 Days Of Changes, Colder Weekend

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2:31AM

The next 3 days will feature typical changing New England weather. High pressure to the north will send a NE wind and lots of clouds into the region today. Low pressure passing northwest of New England Thursday and early Friday will bring clouds and light precipitation ahead of its warm front early Thursday (mostly rain but potentially some light sleet/freezing rain in higher elevatuions NW of  Boston), and rain showers along its cold front Thursday afternoon and evening, then a gusty wind and drier weather Friday.

The weekend will be mostly dry and colder. A weak trough in the vicinity may produce a few snow showers Sunday but it does not look like an important event at this time.

Peek into next week: I’m in disagreement with the government’s temperature forecast, as I think we will see more seasonable temperatures as the northern (polar) jet stream dominates with frequent shots of chilly air. One storm may lift out of the south and reach this area by midweek, and depending on temperature, could be the last shot at snow before Christmas.

Boston Area Forecast…

TODAY: Mostly cloudy. Isolated very light rain showers. High 40-45. Wind NE 5-15 MPH.

TONIGHT: Cloudy. Low 30-35. Wind E up to 10 MPH.

THURSDAY: Cloudy.  Periods of light rain in the morning possibly starting as a little sleet or freezing rain in higher elevations well NW of  Boston. Scattered rain showers in the afternoon. High 44-49. Wind E under 10 MPH shifting to S.

THURSDAY NIGHT: Mostly cloudy. Chance of rain showers early. Low 32-37. Wind S 5-15 MPH shifting to W and increasing to 15-25 MPH.

FRIDAY: Partly to mostly sunny. High 44-49 by noon then cooling through the 40s after. Wind WNW 15-25 MPH and gusty, diminishing gradually.

SATURDAY: Mostly sunny. Low 22. High 38.

SUNDAY: Partly sunny. Slight chance of snow showers. Low 19. High 36.

MONDAY: Partly cloudy. Chance of snow showers late. Low 21. High 41.

TUESDAY: Partly sunny. Low 22. High 44.

175 thoughts on “3 Days Of Changes, Colder Weekend”

  1. Next weekend is Christmas and i think it’s brown, I’m getting so many people asking me or telling me keep up the good work keep that snow away. Have a great day 🙂

  2. Let the debate begin about next week’s storm. The GFS vs the EURO. I’ll take the EURO.

    If I’m reading/analyzing the GFS correctly, that might still be chilly rain for eastern Mass middle of next week. The chilly high is retreating to the east, allowing for a decent marine influence. Check out this mornings temps on a northernly wind. Marshfield, which has ocean to its north, is 45F and most of the Cape reporting stations are in the low-mid 40s………….. With that said, I think the EURO is already onto the western solution……Have a good day all !!

  3. sadly i have to agree with you tom i think the euro has been more accurate this year and that its a pattern that has been stuck Also this storm looks all warm.
    Today: partly sunny highs in the upper30s
    tonight becoming cloudy lows in the low30s
    thursday cloudy with showers water amounts around .5 of an inch highs in the mid to upper40s
    thursday night cloudy slight chance of showers lows in the upper30s
    friday partly sunny highs in the 40s dropping through the afternoon into the the30s
    friday night partly cloudy lows in the 20s
    saturday sunny highs in the mid 30s
    saturday night partly sunny lows in the low20s
    sunday partly sunny slight chance of flurries outside of 495
    sunday night partly sunny lows in the mid to upper20s
    monday partly sunny highs in the low40s
    monday night partly cloudy lows in the 30s
    tuesday a chance of rain or snow showers. partly sunny highs in the mid40s

  4. well, at least the models are consistent with their lameness. Hopefully they’re that consistent when winter storms come back sometime next year.

    questions is, early next year or end!

  5. Retrac on the GFS is at least shows a decent type storm for interior NE, not sure if enough for you, but very close. Now on the flip side the EURO is a totaly different story. ALso on GFS note the high pressure prior to the storm. Question like Tom said how quickly does it scoot away….8 days away to a lot to work out and for me too soon to say either way.

  6. Long range discussion from the HPC this morning….

    THE MEDIUM RANGE FORECAST HINGES ON NO FEWER THAN TWO PLAYERS OVER
    THE CONUS… THE EJECTION OF A CLOSED LOW OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST AND
    HOW MUCH NORTHERN STREAM INTERACTION OCCURS OVER THE CENTRAL US.
    THE 00Z ECMWF/CANADIAN ARE QUICKER TO EJECT THE LOW ON MON/DAY 5
    AND ENTRAIN THE NORTHERN ENERGY AS THE SFC LOW DEEPENS THROUGH THE
    GREAT LAKES AND INTO ONTARIO TUE/DAY 6. THE 00Z GFS/UKMET ARE
    SLOWER WITH THE LOW… ON PACE WITH THE BULK OF THE 12Z/13 FULL
    ENSEMBLE SUITE AND THE MAJORITY OF THE 00Z GEFS MEMBERS… AND
    WOULD ALLOW THE NORTHERN SHORTWAVE TO OUTRUN THE WEAKENING CLOSED
    LOW RESULTING IN A FLATTER TRACK ACROSS THE MID-ATLANTIC. THOUGH
    EITHER SCENARIO MAY BE POSSIBLE… FELT COMPELLED TO STAY CLOSER
    TO CONTINUITY VIA THE 00Z GFS AT THIS POINT EXCEPT AROUND MON/DAY
    5 WHERE THE GFS MAY BE TOO STRONG WITH LOW PRESSURE ALONG THE
    US/CANADIAN BORDER FROM THE GREAT LAKES EASTWARD.

  10. I think I’m going to be way off base for December being an exceptionally mild month. It will be on the mild side, probably, but I’m seeing signs of a rather cold last week of the month along with some brief shots of cold between now and Christmas. I’m OK with the dry pattern. Winter is not just about snow. Clear, crisp days in which the temperatures barely get above freezing and nights are in the teens are fine with me. In the Netherlands, where I lived for many years, whenever they got a real taste of winter (which sadly isn’t that often, given the prevailing southwesterly over ocean and sea waters, influence of the Gulf stream, etc ..), it was stretches of cold, dry, sunny weather, during which the canals would freeze over and people would get out their skates. I’m hoping for a similar scenario between Christmas and New Year around here. We don’t have canals, but we have some wonderful ponds to skate on. And nothing beats skating on natural black ice.

    1. Joshua – I am a huge snow lover – maybe more for the actual storm than even the snow – but I agree that winter isn’t just about snow. I also love the cold, crisp air and the early sunsets. Your memories sound special.

  11. No tmuch model agreement for next week.

    Based on the previous patterns and trends, I would guess that anything that
    comes along before Christmas will feature RAIN in our area. It will take some
    doing to make it otherwise.

    Even here on this 06Z GFS, look what happens:

    http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appcontroller?prevPage=Model&MainPage=index&image=&page=Param&cycle=12%2F14%2F2011+06UTC&rname=SFC-LAYER+PARMS&pname=850_temp_mslp_precip&pdesc=&model=GFS&area=NAMER&cat=MODEL+GUIDANCE&fcast=192&areaDesc=North+America+-+US+Canada+and+northern+Mexico&prevArea=NAMER&currKey=model&returnToModel=&imageSize=M

    Not that this will be the final result, but yet it is a hint that it will be too warm.

  13. Ground Hog Day Again! Not even the slimmest glimmer of hope for snow this morning in the models and has been the case for weeks. Bleeping boring!

  14. From NWS this morning:

    MON AND TUE…
    STILL CHILLY INITIALLY ACROSS NEW ENGLAND ESPECIALLY MON. BIG
    DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE ECMWF AND GFS ON THE TIMING AND EVOLUTION OF
    SOUTHERN STREAM ENERGY EJECTING INTO THE NORTHEAST. WITH SOUTHERN
    STREAM MOISTURE APPROACHING FROM THE SOUTHWEST COMBINED WITH COLD
    AIR IN PLACE /AT LEAST INITIALLY/ OVER NEW ENGLAND…THE POTENTIAL
    FOR WINTRY PRECIP EXIST EARLY TO MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK

    So they are up in the air as well due to the discrepancies between GFS and ECMWF.

    So what else is new. History, patterns and trends, say EURO will be correct
    We shall see.

    1. The ensembles side more with the GFS today. The Euro may be ejecting a trough out of the Southwest too quickly.

      1. Which Ensembles? The Euro Ensembles?
        So, then you are leaning towards the GFS solution at this point?
        Or just throwing that out there. Curious.

  15. As they say the trend is your friend and the trend has been for us to be on the warm side of these storm systems and I fear this might be the case here. UGH meter at a 5 since its still several days away and that could change.

    1. I suppose there is a “Chance” it will turn out differently, but the way things have been going, any suggestion or hint that we might get snow from this is nothing but a TEASE at this point OR at least until we see more solid evidence to the contrary.

      1. I forecast UGH readings in the lower single digits over the upcoming days, only “possibly” rising to near 10 sometime towards the end of the year or the beginning of the new year.

  16. As we get closer to the event and if those models start siding with the EURO the UGH meter rating is going to go up. Maybe this time it will go down or stay in the closet. Will see what tune the 12z runs sing.

  18. Sorry I am going nuts today. Hope no one minds.
    Here is an INTERESTING discussion for the Buffalo NWS office:

    AT THE CENTER OF THE DEBATE IS WHETHER THE CUT OFF LOW OVER THE
    DESERT SOUTHWEST WILL EJECT FAST ENOUGH TO PHASE WITH A PASSING
    NORTHERN BRANCH SHORTWAVE. THE GFS IS SLOWER THAN THE ECMWF AND
    DEPICTS A WEAKENING SRN BRANCH CUTOFF THAT OPENS UP AND PASSES
    MAINLY TO OUR SOUTH DURING THE MID WEEK PERIOD. MEANWHILE…THE
    ECMWF (AND AT LEAST A QUARTER OF THE GEFS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS) PHASE
    THE TWO FEATURES TO PRODUCE ANOTHER DEEP SFC LOW THAT WILL TRACK UP
    ACROSS THE HEART OF THE GREAT LAKES. THIS LATTER SOLUTION IS
    `WARMER` FOR OUR REGION.

    WILL LEAN TOWARDS THE ECMWF SOLUTION FOR THIS PERIOD…WHICH HAPPENS
    TO LINE UP CLOSER TO OUR CONTINUITY THAN THE GFS. AS SUCH…

  19. Let’s see which model blinks first!! New GFS should be coming out soon so let’s see what happens with that run. At least something to track:)

  20. Bad news for Buffalo if that situation pans out and if they are on the mild side you know we will be to.
    Could just one time the Old Farmers’ ALmanac be right calling for a snowstorm between the 17th-20th of December.
    The other Alamanc might be right though between the 20th-23rd of December calling for heavy rain.

    1. INDEED!!! Which means just about anything could happen, but I’d still
      lean towards the EURO but with and open mind towards the others.

    2. GFS has it staying South so far and Weakening…..
      Need to see a few more panels. Far different solution than Euro.

    1. It phased altight, just in the wrong place. Too far North and West, even if
      different than the EURO. I think there might be wiggle room here? But with our luck and the trends in place…I don’t think so:

      http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appcontroller?prevPage=Model&MainPage=index&image=&page=Param&cycle=12%2F14%2F2011+12UTC&rname=UPPER+AIR+PARMS&pname=500_vort_ht&pdesc=&model=GFS&area=NAMER&cat=MODEL+GUIDANCE&fcast=162&areaDesc=North+America+-+US+Canada+and+northern+Mexico&prevArea=NAMER&currKey=model&returnToModel=&imageSize=M

  25. A little further south and east would put us in a good spot. Let see what the Euro says when it comes out although I think it will still show an inside runner.

  26. Henry Margusity suggested this morning that the current pattern might not break until mid-January which has been my thinking for awhile now.

    Has Henry been over here reading my postings? Hmmmm….Lol. 🙂

      1. Jimmy, I have noticed over the years that when we get little or no snow in December not to mention temps running above normal like it is now, things usually don’t get going until January and/or February. Of course by then, it is too litttle too late and we almost always end up with below normal snowfall.

        Have you seen Brett Anderson’s latest from yesterday according to the Euro? That SE ridge is still there for early January.

    1. This “may” be our best shot at a White Christmas. Perhaps it will move
      just a bit more West as per trends and Viola! We have it. lol

    1. I am BAD today. Sorry, this was still the 0Z model. 12Z not in yet.
      Please forgive me. It’s coming soon.

  33. I’m going to take a snooze for a little while with the groundhog.

    Will someone wake me when winter arrives please–Nothing premature either.

    Don’t bother me unless a WSW comes up.

    1. Retrac,

      I am desperately seeking WSW all over! Not have much luck.
      Next week doesn’t look like it as well. Only hope is a day or 2 before
      Christmas. Keep your fingers crossed.

  34. Don’t get too hung up on individual runs for a system that is 6 to 7 days away. Watch the larger scale behavior of the models – how they handle the overall pattern. Just keep in mind even the GFS (which I think has a decent handle on the overall pattern at the moment) within 24 hours has shown the track of that system ranging from eastern Great Lakes to so far south of New England we don’t even see any precipitation.

    Far too early for details of really any kind to be known.

    1. Thanks for the guideance. What I am trying to take out of this is that something is up. The models are having trouble dealing with all of the various parameters. We’ll keep watching and hopefully something will come together
      for us as we get closer. Sure would like to see a White Christmas.

      1. Something is up, and I’ve been speaking of it in this blog. It’s a very hard regime to break down, but new patterns within the regime can certainly lead to interesting things if everything falls just the right way (as they did in late October). Mark my words, Boston will see measurable snow again before 2011 is over.

          1. You may be right with the overall regime change. What’s funny is that we’ve been stuck in the regime I thought we’d actually launch into after mid January. It’s almost like the cold season is starting out in the reverse of my original long range thinking…

  36. A very ominous sky today…looks, feels and smells like snow. 🙂

    Too bad we have +NAO, -PNA, strong SE ridge and a gazillion other things against us. 🙁

    1. For brief icing I suspect? Temps probably too warm for snow even up there.

      Matt, I am so glad that you are finally over here. 🙂

  38. For next week’s system, NWS has come over to the Great Lakes Cutter solution with
    only a slight chance of some frozen precip on the onset:

    MONDAY INTO WEDNESDAY…
    CLOSED LOW OUT OF THE SWRN CONUS TRANSITIONS AS AN OPEN WAVE THRU
    THE MID-MS RVR VLY INTO THE GRT LKS RGN BY THE END OF THE PD. THRU
    THIS TRANSITION…SFC LOW INTENSIFIES…ATTENDANT WARM FRNT LIFTS
    THRU THE RGN ALONG WHICH LOW-MID LVL FLOW /H925-H85 AROUND 50 MPH/
    ACCELERATES A WARM/MOIST TONGUE. ALTHO THE BETTER LIFT WILL BE
    ACROSS THE GRT LKS RGN…E/SELY ISALLOBARIC COMPONENT OF WIND
    COUPLED WITH ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE AND MID-UPR LVL FORCING WILL PROVIDE
    A RGN OF FAVORABLE LIFT AND CHC POPS BEGINNING MON NGT INTO TUE. AM
    SOMEWHAT CONCERNED OF DRY SLOTTING THRU TUE EVNG THAT MAY DIMINISH
    POP CHCS…DURING WHICH TIME THERE IS LESS FAVORABLE LIFT. GOING
    WITH THE PROGRESSIVE SOLNS…EXPECTING DRYING TUE NGT AS THE LOW AND
    ATTENDANT TROF SLIDE OFFSHORE. PARTICULARS FAIRLY UNCERTAIN…WILL
    HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON THE SITUATION AS WE GET CLOSER IN TIME. MAY
    NEED TO BE CONCERNED WITH MIXED PRECIP WITH THE INITIAL ONSET OF THE
    STORM MON NGT INTO TUE.

  39. This is part of the problem with forecasting these days. These so-called experts spend so much damn time trying to figure out details of storm tracks and rain/snow lines 7, 8, and 9 days in advance that they forget how to actually forecast that kind of thing, and further, they forget how to forecast the next few days. How many people had today as a mostly cloudy day before it was actually underway. By last night, you could see that was going to be the case for the Boston area. Meanwhile, all these forecasts of clouds to sun, partly sunny, mostly sunny, etc., still flying around out there, followed by some discussion on what’s coming up December 20-21 in great detail (NWS).

    Sure, maybe today’s a “boring” weather day, but there is still weather to talk about. I long for the old days when forecasters didn’t have telescopes taped to their eyes…

    1. Good point TK. Unfortunately or Fortunately I guess….everything these days needs to be discovered and packaged up for consumtion way in advance….and that includes pumping up something as dynamic as weather.

    2. LOL!!! How true!

      I don’t know if you remember this one…..but here goes:

      Long time ago, in the 80s? The guy on channel 5 was on the radio at 5PM, I think it was Dick Albert? But It could have been Bob Ryan, I just can’t remember. But I do remember that a snowstorm had been forecast to
      start late PM and continue all night with up to a foot forecasted.

      I was driving home from work in Cambridge at the time and it was
      RAINING OUT. I listened to the SNOW forecast and YELLED at my radio:
      “WHY DON’T YOU LOOK OUT THE WINDOW!!!!” Just totally cracked me up that a full-fledged well-compensated meteorologist couldn’t simply take
      a look out of the window!!! It NEVER did snow that night as it stayed rain!!!

      Go Figure sometimes!!!!

        1. there were plenty of surprises back then for sure. I used to watch the clock crawl waiting for “dickie” to come on–no internet model runs then!!

          i remember having a big final in the mid-80’s when I was in high school, and a blizzard warning came up. needeless to say, I didn’t study….and it was clear as a bell the next morning…not a cloud in the sky!

          1. As Kevin Lemanowicz always says…DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!…just in case. 🙂

            Just curious retrac, did you “pass” or “fail” your test the next day?

          2. Lol. yes, there were a bunch of them.

            Don’t see that as often anymore. Technological advances, I guess.

          3. Also, I remember the 80’s as frustrating many times with regard to snowstorms. Snow totals were fairly low overall…only two winters were above normal (1981-82 = 61.8″; 1987-88 = 52.6″).

  40. There’s hope for some winter storms coming our way soon. Can’t say when, but the cold is building to our north, which it was not up until a week ago. The temperature differentials I mentioned last week are tightening up. While last week Sept-Iles, Quebec was at 42 and we were at 55, Sept-Iles is now at 14 (we’re at 43). Sept-Iles will get a fair amount of snow out of this system (perhaps as much as 10 inches) despite E-SE winds, which to a novice like myself means the relatively warm air from the E-SE is bumping into some pretty decent cold. As we travel almost directly due south of Sept-Iles about 280 miles to, say, Presque Isle, Maine, we see some of that tightening of the isotherms that I mentioned last week. Presque Isle is 30 right now (42 last week, same as Sept-Iles!), expecting some ice out of the next system, and a little snow (an inch or two). Obviously we need the systems to suppress southward for Southern New England to get into the action, but I’m patient and more optimistic that this may happen sooner than I had initially thought. SE Ridge has got to go no matter what. But even without Greenland blocking we may get some interesting spells of weather.

  41. With next week storm system as I said earlier UGH meter only at a 5 since it could change. Hopefully the number won’t get up to 10.

    1. Oil up the Ugh meter! Nah just kidding. We have to catch a break sometime.
      Perhaps next week is the time??????

      A few more runs of the GFS showing a cutter, then definitely oil it up!

      1. Like I have been saying for weeks we have a plowable snow event before years end. Could it be next week It could or could not. Charlie I responded to your post. What is the bet. As TK said mark my word. It is time folks just be patient. Less than two weeks and you get your snow, again I will bet anything.

        1. So did the little girl on “Yes, Virginia..” after she said “me too!” a hundred times first. 🙂

  43. philip—

    I failed of course!

    I probably would have failed anyway seeing how I was a chronic daydreamer. Still have a bit of that by the way.

    1. Todd and Pete Bouchard each have a “snowflake” and a high of 38 for next Wednesday on their respective 7-days, but I suspect nothing will come of it.

      In fact, Pete stated on his 6:00 pm newscast that the chances of a white Christmas this year are….0%. 🙁

  45. Pete B from ch7 cracks me up. on his 7day forcast he has rain for tuesday and 38 with snow for wednesday. Yet in his blog he makes mention on saying no chance of white xmas and saying the only precip we will be seeing is the liquid form on tuesday. I realy don’t like him, yet I read his blog every night.

    1. John I really do like pete. I worked with him LOOSELY said for a while. Very nice person. A lot of times I’ve heard people say he’s forecasting too early and then he gets it on the nose. he did it with halloween storm with Irene and with Earl.

  46. Tom how do I find bouy temps Boston harbor? My niece is planning to join us for new years eve at beach and is talking about doing the polar dip in memory of her dad (my brother) since he’d do it without question.

    1. Hi Vicki..

      Taunton National Weather Service
      (Look top left) for RECENT CONDITIONS and hit Hourly Roundups
      Click on Southern New England
      Scroll down to bottom of report and Boston Harbor Buoy temp will be there.

      Of course, today, its not available. 🙂 But, its there most times.

      That sounds great !! Hopefully she is able to do that in his memory.

  47. John…I agree with Pete’s blog for now. We will have to wait later this winter for better chances for snow. The SE ridge is just too strong to break down right now.

    Be patient…mid-January.

    1. So you do not agree with myself and Tk on snow by the end of the year. Did you se e his post. Also I hope you do not think I come across as cocky, I am not like that. I just think this will play out. Enjoy your night and Merry Christmas. By the way where do you live.

      2. John the last thing you have to worry about is being seen as cocky IMHO. You are very polite. Best part is that everyone here is also

        1. Thank you Vicki. and yes agree everybody here is polite and civil. You and I have had many good conversations here. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Hard to believe It is almost christmas week.

  48. John I said we will not go the whole month of December without wintry precipitation. However snowfall will be below normal.
    Next week does not look good at the moment.

  49. I think the reason is the models are siginaling in on an inside runner and the trend has been for these storm systems since the Pre Halloween Noreaster to cut to the west leaving us on the mild side.

    2. What is Tk seeing that he is saying we will get snow by end of month. My feeling and I am guessing your feeling on snow this month is gut. But for him to say mark my word we will see snow before months end, what does he see.

  50. WeatherWizard on BZ blog was saying about a week ago to be patient and the current pattern will slowly breakdown. Patience is a virtue.

  51. If I did not get the big dumping of snow back with the Pre Halloween Noreaster I would really be upset. To me mild weather is boring. I want to be tracking snowstorms to this time of year.

        1. I had to think on that even though I wasn’t the one you asked. Snow. A snowstorm lasts longer than a thunder storm.

        2. That is tough question to answer. If I had to answer though I would say I like tracking snowstorms a little bit more than thunderstorms but not by much.

    2. JJ I have been thinking the same. Snow already AND four days without power for me is like birthday and Christmas and all else good rolled into one!

      1. Vicki, I don’t like what I’m hearing. Remember I only have 3″ forecast for the entire winter. :):):)

        1. You may be the winner. I just don’t have that feeling yet. I said I go by gut feeling but so I have none. I’ve switched to sun tanning while at the beach in Jan instead of a snow storm

  53. John I do like thunderstorms but I want to make clear I hope there will never be a repeat of June 1, 2011. To me that is a day that proves tornadoes can happen here in New England if everything comes together and you could even have a strong tornado EF 3 or higher.

    1. I think almost anything could happen here if everything came togeather. The weather here is getting real crazy.

  54. John did you see the new sujpex model. You must have. It nails us with snow right after Christmas. You nailed it!

    1. I take it your playing with me. I have two weeks left for my prediction. Nothing like a storm that creeps up the coast Mr. Coastal.

          1. Hey Coastal what if my prediction comes true. Would you be mad that I was right, or happy you got your snow.

  56. Something will happen before the end of 2011. To what extent I am not sure but with a bunch of storms near us something will get us. Last week of December looks to be pretty chilly.

  57. Well, surface winds coming around to gentle east and southeast breezes. Temps tonight arent going anywhere. If so, Logan is 41F…which is 13F above normal for the daily low, so thats where tomorrow probably starts from.

  58. Next update later tonight look for:

    Adding a chance of snow or snow showers to eastern MA Saturday night or early Sunday.

    Still uncertain on the track of the midweek system, and I still believe we are looking at a Wednesday event, not a Tuesday one. Snow is not to be ruled out at this time, especially if it is slower timing.

    Look for a potential snow threat over eastern MA late Friday and/or early Saturday of next week.

    Temperatures will not average more than 2 above normal overall for the remainder of the month, and from here through the end of December may average near to slightly below normal.

    1. Starting next Friday and for the next 10 days afterward, it can snow all it wants, as I will be on school break, no days will be lost and I will not have to drive in it. 🙂

      1. I will take a snow day any day since i do not have to make them up. High school senior privilege of not needing to make any up
        😛

    3. I suspect that December will still “average” above normal for the month. It will just be a matter of the exact number of degrees (+1, +2, +3….etc.).

    4. I hope we are not disapointed. but let it snow and let it be normal temps for the rest of the month.
      also topkatt are you talking about this saturday night or sunday or next saturday or sunday for the possible snow showers.
      and do you see snow events for areas inside of 495
      I would not get my hopes up but i do want it to get normal around here

  59. B’s 4-1, after getting Big Breaks off Ottawa mistakes. 2 goals in under a minute.

    Much more interesting than the weather lately.

  61. TK I noticed GFS had some moisture for the Late Saturday but was not sure about it.

    John I was always on board I thought and still think we will have a plowable event before the end of the year.

  62. gfs showing signs that a snow lover wants to see.
    cold air sustained in canada
    forming of ridging in southwest usa instead of southeast which might break
    greenland high forming stronger and also a blocking high to the south and east of bermuda. 🙂
    euro has something totally different :/

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