21 thoughts on “C-19 Chat Post – July 25 2021”

  1. Dave, apologies. I had said I’d get back to you re the PDF you were nice enough to share Friday night. I tried to stay away from covid stuff yesterday as much as possible. I will read it. I promise.

    1. Wow. Are other countries figuring this out …along with the lower efficacy….because they are in the middle of a surge? Should we be exploring all of this also?

  2. The Pfizer vaccine study – dosing intervals – is interesting. I think that to get a good handle on which interval is better one would also need to calculate the numbers of partially vaccinated folks who wound up in hospital during the dosing interval period. It’s a substantial number in Britain.

    On the UK, the differences between the 4 nations are stark. Scotland is now in steady decline in terms of cases and hospitalizations. Testing has remained the same. England, on the other hand, has lower testing and fewer cases (rising test positivity, though) and steadily increasing hospitalizations (920 admissions yesterday alone). All 4 nations have difference coronavirus policies in place; England is the most lax; the other are quite strict.

        1. Ditto.

          But take heart, JPD (she said facetiously) , I’m hearing Washington is thinking of putting masks back in place. Wonder how long they will “think” about it. And wonder why our governs are not “thinking” about it

  3. Philip, US policy isn’t the worst in the world. That honor would go to a country like Brazil, or perhaps India. But, those are emerging market nations without our healthcare system capacity, know-how, and resources. We should have done much better than 3rd or 4th place on the death rate ranking among wealthy, industrlalized nations. Basics like having sufficient protective gear for healthcare personnel, shouldn’t have been an issue here. Testing, idem ditto. Still isn’t that easy, by the way. Haphazard mitigation efforts, lack of coordination, all problematic. We did well on vaccine development and vaccination, overall, though part of the credit must go to countries in Europe where vaccines were mostly developed (Netherlands; J&J/Janssen; Germany; Pfizer/BioNTech).

  4. We are further into this wave than we think. Much lower testing than previous waves.

    So curious, folks think mask mandates should be back? My kids wear their masks indoors as they are not vaccinated. I will continue to wear masks indoors (grocery stores mainly) as I have all along, but will not outside.

    1. I think vaccine mandates should take place. Those fully vaccinated should decide for themselves whether to wear masks or not indoors.

      Finally Dr. Fauci has acknowledged that we are going in the wrong direction.

    2. Hadi it is refreshing to hear your area has folks still wearing masks. Sadly, there are a few places that do but it seems most that do not. We all do but the vast majority do not. And no masks at camps out this way or in summer schools

      1. The Stop & Shops in Brigham Circle, Brookline and Dorchester where I go, most customers and workers still wear masks, so I do the same. However the Star Market at the Pru, very few customers and workers wear masks, so I don’t either. Same at CVS in Brookline, Coolidge Corner.

        With the way things are going, I suspect indoor mask mandates will return most everywhere. In Cambridge masks are required in public both indoors and outdoors again.

        The year 2021 has turned back into 2020 again, I’m afraid. 🙁

        1. No, it’s not 2020 again. The waves were expected. We just were not sure how many there would be.

          We are a long way from where we were just over a year ago, even if we are trending in the wrong direction for now. We do need to be careful, but this also will pass.

  5. As is the case with Provincetown, Cambridge has issued an advisory only. I don’t believe any area had a mandate.

    If we think about it, this time last year and preschool, we were seeing a low in covid cases.

    Truly, that should be all we need to start instituting mitigation policies.

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