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7 thoughts on “NOAA / NWS Staffing Discussion (3/9/2025)”
Been reading about certain NWS folks being called back to the office. This has happened at other agencies, too. In my view this is what you get when you go in with a chainsaw without proper planning. Musk literally was holding a chainsaw, mimicking the Argentinian President Millei, at an event a couple of weeks ago.
By the way, the active verb “firing” has a different connotation (often used to denote power, as in reality TV, and not necessarily seen as a negative here) and acceptance level (much greater) in the U.S. than it does elsewhere. I’ve noticed this difference for decades. Part of it is probably due to the edgy, more competitive nature of America compared to other places I’ve lived. And part of it has to do with very strict labor laws throughout Europe. Some would argue too strict. It’s very hard to fire employees in Europe, and you generally can’t do it without documented reasons. Also, there are very few “at will” employees in Europe. Almost everyone who has a job has a contract that protects them from being fired arbitrarily or without reason.
As I think you may know, my FIL worked for the international branch of a US company. He was its key person to increase production at its factories outside of the US. He shared some interesting stories on your topic
That’s interesting.
Americans work hard. And I think that’s a good thing. However, fearing getting the axe does lead to a lot of uncertainty. In my experience, having worked for Dutch and American organizations in the Netherlands, the Dutch work hard, too, but emphasize the work-life balance. This means that my fellow Dutch co-workers would put work away at the end of the day on Friday and not touch it until Monday. Meanwhile, the Americans in the group (we worked at Accenture) would put in some additional hours on the weekend. In the end, I’m not sure who was more productive. I think the Dutch may have been more efficient, while the Americans were more enthused about work and wanted to impress their superiors more. It was an interesting cultural observation which also played out in England.
Now I’m curious. Who impressed the superiors more in the end? Dutch or Americans? Or was it a draw?
Most of the probationary NWS people who were let go were told that the order has been rescinded, and they are to return to work this week.
Also, in relation to my post yesterday about Gray/Albany still launching balloons except when they don’t have the staff, Ryan Breton posted the exact same thing today on Twitter in regards to the Gray office.
Been reading about certain NWS folks being called back to the office. This has happened at other agencies, too. In my view this is what you get when you go in with a chainsaw without proper planning. Musk literally was holding a chainsaw, mimicking the Argentinian President Millei, at an event a couple of weeks ago.
By the way, the active verb “firing” has a different connotation (often used to denote power, as in reality TV, and not necessarily seen as a negative here) and acceptance level (much greater) in the U.S. than it does elsewhere. I’ve noticed this difference for decades. Part of it is probably due to the edgy, more competitive nature of America compared to other places I’ve lived. And part of it has to do with very strict labor laws throughout Europe. Some would argue too strict. It’s very hard to fire employees in Europe, and you generally can’t do it without documented reasons. Also, there are very few “at will” employees in Europe. Almost everyone who has a job has a contract that protects them from being fired arbitrarily or without reason.
As I think you may know, my FIL worked for the international branch of a US company. He was its key person to increase production at its factories outside of the US. He shared some interesting stories on your topic
That’s interesting.
Americans work hard. And I think that’s a good thing. However, fearing getting the axe does lead to a lot of uncertainty. In my experience, having worked for Dutch and American organizations in the Netherlands, the Dutch work hard, too, but emphasize the work-life balance. This means that my fellow Dutch co-workers would put work away at the end of the day on Friday and not touch it until Monday. Meanwhile, the Americans in the group (we worked at Accenture) would put in some additional hours on the weekend. In the end, I’m not sure who was more productive. I think the Dutch may have been more efficient, while the Americans were more enthused about work and wanted to impress their superiors more. It was an interesting cultural observation which also played out in England.
Now I’m curious. Who impressed the superiors more in the end? Dutch or Americans? Or was it a draw?
Most of the probationary NWS people who were let go were told that the order has been rescinded, and they are to return to work this week.
Also, in relation to my post yesterday about Gray/Albany still launching balloons except when they don’t have the staff, Ryan Breton posted the exact same thing today on Twitter in regards to the Gray office.
https://x.com/RyanBretonWX/status/1898815929904963943
Thanks for the info!
I’d love a link on that. A Mutual whw friend shared much earlier today that some but not close to all are being reinstated
This is the norm across the board. Some are not returning because of instability. Those who do will have the fear of refire ….thus controlling