Thursday Forecast

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2:25AM

DAYS 1-5 (JANUARY 4-8)
Storm day. Deepening low pressure wobbles its way north and northeast off the US East Coast today and passes New England by tonight, resulting in a major winter storm for the region. It is time to make a list of the expectations of this unfolding weather event…
Start time of precipitation: 3AM to 7AM south to north as patchy areas of snow except rain Cape Cod.
Increase in coverage of precipitation: 7AM-9AM entire region under light to moderate snow except rain Cape Cod as far west as a line from near Plymouth MA to near Newport RI.
Peak of precipitation: 9AM-5PM generally moderate widespread snow except rain changing to snow Cape Cod with banding of heavier snow where snowfall rates of 1 to 3 inches per hour may take place, and some in-between bands of lighter snowfall or even breaks in snow entirely.
Wind-down of precipitation: Area of snow erodes from west to east 5PM-8PM with a few lingering final bands of moderate snow possible.
End of precipitation: Final patches of snow exit by or before 10PM in eastern areas.
Snowfall accumulation: Generally 8-14 inches much of the region with medium to fluffy consistency of snow, except areas of under 8 inches possible far to the west, a 4-8 inch area of wetter snow from near Plymouth MA to Newport RI eastward to the western part of Cape Cod, and 2-4 inches of wet snow eastern part of Cape Cod through Martha’s Vineyard, and 1-3 inches of wet snow late in the storm on Nantucket. The most likely areas near the top of the snowfall range will be the North Shore of MA, South Shore of MA, and Boston’s immediate southern suburbs, as well as an area in north central MA in the higher elevations.
Maximum wind gusts: Northeast to north winds early in the storm becoming more north to northwest mid to late storm when maximum gusts of 30-45 MPH interior and 45-60 MPH coastal areas, with some gusts in excess of 60 MPH possible immediate coastal locations.
Coastal impact: Minor flooding likely along the entire coast with areas of moderate to significant flooding closer to high tide times favoring north-facing shores. Ice shoves are also possible (areas of recently-formed ice being pushed ashore by tide and wind).
Power outages: Isolated to scattered outages possible anywhere, but most likely location is southeastern MA where rain changes to wetter snow and wind gusts are strongest.
Thundersnow: Low risk but possible in heaviest bands of snow during the height of the storm midday to mid afternoon.
Visibility: Blizzard conditions with drastically reduced visibility to white-out conditions from sustained winds or frequent wind gusts of 35 MPH or greater for at least 3 consecutive hours will be likely along the NH Seacoast and eastern MA coastline to the Cape Cod Canal and the South Coast of MA. While Cape Cod itself may see these conditions develop late in the storm it will probably not occur for long enough to be classified as an official blizzard. Some interior locations may approach these conditions but not for long enough periods of time for official blizzard status.
Post-storm: Blowing and drifting snow will continue through Friday long after the storm has ended, and in some cases this can result in reduced visibility in a small area making travel briefly dangerous, or cover the ground with snow making for an area of slippery conditions. Keep an eye out for this if traveling on Friday.
Forecast details…
TODAY: Overcast. Snow except rain changing to snow far southeastern areas. Snow will be heavy at times in bands. See above for details of snow accumulation and other storm impacts. Highs 22-29 interior, 30-37 coast, mildest Cape Cod, in the morning, with slowly falling temperatures during the afternoon. Wind N increasing to 15-30 MPH interior and 25-40 MPH coast with higher gusts (see above for peak expected gusts).
TONIGHT: Snow ending evening. Clearing overnight. Temperatures fall to 15-22. Wind N to NW 25-35 MPH, higher gusts. Blowing and drifting snow where dry snow fell and a flash freeze where wetter snow fell.
FRIDAY: Mostly sunny. Temperatures fall to 5-12. Wind NW 25-35 MPH, higher gusts. Wind chill falling well below 0 at times. Blowing and drifting snow where dry snow fell.
FRIDAY NIGHT: Mostly clear. Lows -5 to +5. Wind NW 20-30 MPH, higher gusts. Wind chill -10 to -20 at times.
SATURDAY: Partly cloudy. Isolated snow showers. Highs 5-13. Wind NW 15-25 MPH, higher gusts. Wind chill as low as -10 at times.
SUNDAY: Mostly sunny. Lows -15 to 0. Highs 10-20.
MONDAY: Increasing clouds. Chance of snow/mix/rain late. Temperatures rise into the 20s morning, 30s afternoon.

DAYS 6-10 (JANUARY 9-13)
Rain/snow/mix followed by clearing January 9. Fair January 10-11. Unsettled weather returns later in the period. Temperatures below to near normal.

DAYS 11-15 (JANUARY 14-18)
Unsettled weather favoring snow/mix early in the period, then generally dry and colder.

670 thoughts on “Thursday Forecast”

  4. Thanks for all your work on this TK. Storm day! Been up for a while already checking out latest info. And don’t really have any changes, everything looks on track. 10-15″ for many. Localized higher/lower by a few inches. More confident this morning that range will extend as far back as Worcester or even a little beyond with a more westerly track. No concern for mixing northwest of Taunton/Providence, and you’ll really have to get to the Cape to have much of an issue with that. Winds a big concern. We’ll see a couple hurricane force gusts Cape/Islands. Coastal flooding also a major concern for the midday high tide. In short, this storm has everything. It’s absolutely spectacular on satellite this morning with a large eye feature. Be safe, and enjoy! We won’t see another storm of this intensity for awhile.

  6. Thanks TK and Good Morning Everyone!
    Been snowing a couple hours and wind is gusting too bad. Looking like a widespread double digit snowfall for many in SNE. Of course the cold air to follow this storm will be the next story after this storm system.

  8. I find it to be pretty amazingly WINDY already. I can’t imagine what it will be
    later. Visibility slowing coming down in light snow.

      1. Yeah, that 1.2 qpf dot looks like it’s either right over my house or my neighbors at worst lol. We’ll see.

  12. Quite breezy here already as well. Very impressive SW to NE synoptic band has developed from Cape Ann all the way into central CT. Subsidence shadow southeast of there (“Charlie hole”), with more heavier precip, some of which is rain, over southeast MA. This is how we get our localized high/low amounts.

    1. Think so. This from NWS

      Coastal Front is beginning to set-up across the eastern MA coastline
      with GHG warming to 36F and PYM near 32F. The Cape is currently above
      32F so they will start out as rain once the precip moves onshore.
      Will have to continue to watch and see how far westward this front
      pushes inland but current thinking is GHG to east of EWB.

      1. i was wondering the same thing. I’m on that blue line.
        temp is 33 and snowing pretty intensely.
        Will the coastal front move during the storm?

        1. Home working. Took an act of congress to get corporate to allow me to keep people home and close the business. They’re on the west coast…..

  18. Looks like I’m about fifteen minutes from that sweet band hitting. Bet it’s snowing like a mother around northboro. 30 dbz echos starting to blossom near there.

  20. I think on the coastal front : watch the Boston harbor buoy wind direction. It’s only 030. If that veers, then the coastal front is moving west, if it stays at 030 or backs, then the coastal front will be collapsing SE.

    http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrBT8BFIU5aE0sAqC1x.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTByOHZyb21tBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg–/RV=2/RE=1515098565/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ndbc.noaa.gov%2fstation_page.php%3fstation%3d44013/RK=2/RS=XvgO8fn8RMs108lcOf6wL2TSvQU-

    1. It will. 🙂

      Mix or wet snow for a while this morning. Late morning thru afternoon, I believe will plenty make up for it.

      Unfortunately, this just puts a layer of waterlogged snow at the bottom and on the roads, it will create water and slush that will freeze, then to be topped by snow.

      1. It’s so funny that we have essentially trademarked that phrase. NWS might want to start using that in their discussions. Or at least TK should!!

  25. Thank you TK. Exceptional discussion

    Started in Sutton around 4:15. Moderate snow now. Rough guess 1/2 inch. Wind on light to step above light side. Both Son and one SIL headed into work.

      1. Thanks JPD. Son has no choice and may get stuck for an extra shift since others may not make it in later. I believe SIL will try to head back here before 9:00. He has a strong work ethic so it is difficult for him to remain home.

  27. Tweet from weatheroptics
    Our coastal storm has officially undergone bombogenesis. Its pressure has dropped 24 millibars in only 7 hours–And it is still strengthening!

  28. Snow starting to pick up in Wrentham as the more solid snow shield moves in. Also some ocean enhancement. Leading heavy band continues pushing NW.

  33. 8 AM wind at Logan

    Wind: from the North at 25.3 gusting to 31.1 MPH (22 gusting to 27 KT)
    Visibility: 1.25 miles in Light Snow

  34. It’s a very warm 38 here in the southwestern side of Lakeville. Been raining pretty good for an hour or so. Started out as a light snow at about 6 which has since been washed away. Wind started picking up like someone flipped a switch. It was really weird.

  35. Snowing at a pretty good clip here in South Weymouth (at work) right now and the wind is starting to pick up too.

        1. Just north from the mall by a half a mile I guess. I think the coastal front is just north of me by a couple of football fields and sinking south easy. Weather underground shows my station and 5 degree drop a short distance away.

  36. I feel like there will be two major bands One along and west of I495 and then one along the coastal front.

  38. Last hour at harbor buoy

    7 031
    7:10 031
    7:20. 028
    7:30. 026
    7:40. 027
    7:50. 026

    The coastal front, I believe, will only start to sink SE from here on out.

      1. Yup, a slow and steady collapsing of the coastal front.
        Where it is now raining, it WILL be snowing.

        1. Agreed.

          Bad to start with rain, only going to make the surfaces more slippery and the weight on the trees heavier when it freezes solid.

    1. No, that’s his pool cover that caught the wind and the radar bounced over it. Opening day for swimming.

      (Couldn’t resist)

  44. Storm has dropped 43 mb so far nearly double bombogenesis. Wow. Check out goes 16. Absolutely gorgeous.

  46. I hope the Merrimack valley doesn’t get shadowed between heavy bands as it tends to do that sometimes. Let get those heavy bands into NE mass!

  51. A little over an inch in Sutton at 8:40. Daughter corrected me on wind. She said there have been some stronger gusts. She did point out that I tend to not think it is windy unless the house shakes.

    1. I fall into that category too Vicki. Wind doesn’t impress me until I can hear it howl from inside and it shakes the house and rattled the windows

  54. It’s raining steadily here now at 36 the temperature is down now 3 degrees from say an hour ago.

    1. My guess is that includes Humarock. Not good for those houses down there….especially on the narrow stretch where we stay.

      1. Well those echos could be very heavy rain or
        a heavy mix.

        Anyone seeing sleet? Sleet could make those echos.

        1. I’m actually wondering if Pembroke doesn’t start getting into heavy snow till after noon time now

  61. Blizzard Warnings now up for three counties in CT. I am not surprised the way that wind is gusting and the blowing and drifting of the snow I could certainly see blizzard criteria verifying.

    3. The morning facebook post from NWS has 76 as a max gust at Nantucket for the entire storm, I believe.

  65. Just saw that on the lightning map JJ, lightning strikes reported near Norwich CT. That’s the wall of very heavy snow that is about to pivot in.

  66. So far so good in the Merrimack Valley, in Pelham, NH, we have been in a heavy band for a while. I agree with Kane sometimes we end up in the shadow of the coastal front (heavy bands).

    2. He got trampled last night trying to get bread at the local food store. Poor guy 🙂

      He might be behind where I use to live but hopefully he will chime in soon.

  70. JPD and Mark. I’ve been texting your links to my just 9 year old granddaughter. She is the weather enthusiast and is just studying weather in school.

      1. Thank you both for the links. The visual of the storm from above and the lightning map are especially great.

  71. Been to Whole Foods and back already, definitely a good day to stay home and off the roads! Deteriorating quickly. Had an oil delivery late yesterday, but there was a a small leak in the fill pipe outside the house so they didn’t fill the tank… we had a new tank installed in August so its all new, but now that company has to come fix it today, so we can oil by the weekend… The cold weather must have shrunk the pipe seal I guess. Never easy!

  73. As the heavy bands approaching boston and into the north shorr, they seem to have backed off and retreat
    I wonder why that happens

        1. Kane, they kind of act the same because it is rising and falling air. Out in Springfield it is geographic, the air is sinking as it comes down into the CT valley. Air also sinks just west of rising air caused by a coastal front which are different direction winds causing air to rise. What goes up must come down, so the air coming down causes snow drought.

  75. https://merrimackvalleyweather.wordpress.com/2018/01/04/4313/
    I think more people in eastern Mass will see blizzard conditions that some may think. based on current observations especially when you get into one of the bands.

    Kane, haterain I agree, My dad says its the snow eater and is what I am worried about. Can not tell you how many times up around 495 there is 17 inches and areas just around I95 there was 15. and then here in Billerica there is 6 inches. ( just an example)

        1. It will. We’ll have some heavy precipitation still left when we end up on the other side of the coastal boundary.

          True, we may not get 10+, but a flash freeze topped by 4-8 inches with howling NW winds and we’ll have blizzard conditions later on.

      2. Check out Dave Epstein on Twitter. He just posted a map of the snow line on the south shore. Not far from you in Marshfield.

  78. There are dp depressions (i.e.), nobody is showing relative humidities of 100%, especially Boston points north and west, so I’d think that would ‘eat’ up some of the heaviest precipitation to evaporation as it moves to the northwest ?????

  80. From NWS Taunton
    Intense snow band underway across eastern LI northward into this band. New 12z NAM show intense upward motion with up to 60 eastern CT at 9 AM. Few flashes of lightning being detected in ubar/sec across eastern CT with less lift extending northeast toward Boston at 15z. NAM pivots this band northwest into central CT /including Hartford area/ extending northeast into central and northeastern MA by 18z. Given most of this lift occurs in the snow growth region expecting very heavy snow, isolated thundersnow and high snow ratios. Will continue to review latest satellite, radar and mesoscale guid but may have to increase snow totals across CT into central MA.

    1. I think Boston does well. I suspect Boston will close in on 20 inches.
      We shall see. IF it falls short at 13 or 14 inches, so be it. Not too shabby.

    2. Yep got a text from my brother about that. He was awoken out of bed by it. A very unsettling feeling I’m sure.

  87. Barely snowing where I am in Woburn…must be a dry slot or lull. Was able to get out for a bit.

    1. Birds already ate all of the feed that I put out yesterday afternoon.
      Just about to venture into the storm to give them breakfast!

      1. Now I will feel guilty all day if I don’t feed mine. 😉

        We have a bunch of bluebirds. I didn’t realize they do not migrate.

        1. False alarm. Snow had blown into the feeder making it look like it was empty. It was full. They’re going to have to work at it this morning if they want to eat!

  92. snowflake there, snowflake there, big whoop. Radar is lying, as i think alot of it is being eaten up by the dry air which was another concern of mine.

    3. Yeah I am in Woburn and it’s just spitting snow. On my way back 20 minutes ago it was almost like it stopped snowing. More to come I know but right now it’s a heavy coating.

  95. 5″ already as measured by the unofficial snow stick stuck in the ground in the backyard.
    West side of Taunton

    1. The snow has been very heavy just west of the R/S line, and Taunton has been right in that zone for a while now.

  98. Near whiteout at times in Wrentham. Good stuff. Next 3-5 hours will be the heaviest for most. Coastal front being a little stubborn in collapsing southeast, but it will get there.

  99. It’s still pouring here in Lakeville. Wind is cranking though. Temp down about .5 degrees to 37.5.

    The pouring rain on top of the small amount of compressed snow we had in our neighborhood has turned it into a sheet of ice.

  103. It’s been snowing less than 15 minutes and already getting covered fast and snow is drastically picking up in intensity.

  104. Blizzard Warnings expanded into northern Bristol County and eastern Rhode Island.

    27.5 degrees. Dropped a half of a degree in the couple of minutes.

    Birds found their breakfast.

  107. So far, I am truly NOT impressed by the snow. VERY VERY ROUTINE so far.
    Sure it has been snowing, but it made it to Moderate at best, mostly a good light
    snow. NEVER HEAVY. I am still waiting.

    Perhaps 1 1/2 inches so far. I am not going out to measure that little snow. 😀

    1. That’s where the heaviest snows are right now, just west of the R/S line. Taunton reporting over 5″ now

  110. The heavy stuff wasn’t forecasted to move in until 11 or so. Patience people. I don’t see a dry slot moving in many places, it should stay offshore.

        1. Tom put on 5 as they are constantly do live interviews from a yard in Brantrock they just had Tavares & the school superintendent on . The reporter from 5 is new and grew up in marshfield

  114. Visibility low here also. Can barely see three houses down street. I measured 3 even about 15 minutes ago. Flag across the street still waving but not out straight.

  117. Funny I look out my front door and it’s barely snowing at all…when I look out my back door it’s like a blizzard ha. I think the back has more wind.

    1. I over look a marsh so I get that alot actually, the Back of the house usually has more snow on it as the east/North wind blows right on in from it.

      1. Just look at what radar. It’s about as good as you can ask for. Take a picture and put it over the fireplace.

  123. GOOD GRIEF!!!

    OK, NOW it is a SNOW BLITZ here. Can barely see anything. Vis way down
    Under 1/4 mile. I would venture 1/8 at least if not 1/16. It is REALLY coming
    down and I am a difficult person to please when it comes to snow rates.

    I Hit the LIKE button 100 times!

  128. much more gusty around here. steady light snow, no real accumulation to speak up maybe a half inch now.
    The radar that was shown above the regular green is rather light maybe boarderline moderate. Blue is probably the snowflake there, snowflake there kind of thing. It is more gusy though around here.

  129. 6.5″ here now…
    Temp down to 26.6

    Saw photos of Middleborough about an hour ago. Rain in downtown and snow at the rotary near 495.
    Middleborough is the second largest town in term of area in the state, second to Plymouth.

  134. Gusting to 41 mph at the airport. Strongest winds expected say around 2PM is
    or around there give or take.

  136. I haven’t attempted a measurement yet, it’ll be a challenge with drifting but will certainly have a number later today. We must have at least 6 though, possibly more.

    1. We’re at “about” 4 inches. Tough to tell from in the house, but that’s a
      decent estimate for now.

  139. Much stronger winds, blowing and light/moderate snow falling making visibilities less than a half mile to whiteout conditions occasionally.
    Winds around 18- 20mph with gusts around 32 according to my outdoor weather station.

  142. Been snowing a minimum of 2-3 inches per hour for about an hour and a half. That heavy snow band that has moved into the I95 corridor has been pounding me in Westwood.

  143. The wind is NOT picking up at Nantucket. What does that mean?
    Just temporary, OR has the storm reach peak?

    1. Reinforcing heavy echoes forming by MV and Nantucket. Plus, western edge impressive extending back to jersey coast.

  145. Harbor buoy air temp stabilized at 33F. Would like to see it lower. That’s the air temp blowing right into marshfield. S+++++ and its dark. Going to pile up wet snow real fast.

  146. 10:15 to 11:21 we picked up three inches and are an even 6.

    SIL got home from Wellesley in better time than on a regular day.

    1. I wish that was up here. getting light snow but lots of wind and the birds are out so you know its not that bad out.

      1. Yeah it’s funny. With the wind the roofs are all clear…almost no snow on deck or grill cover. Might be an easier cleanup than I figured.

  152. I don’t think there’s going to be a lull from Boston to Plymouth area. This intensity likely til about 3pm. This is verifying that mesoscale discussion from a few hrs ago.

  154. Winds just not going up as expected. This may well underachieve in the wind
    department. Nothing even remotely impressive here. Only gusting to 41
    at Nantucket.

  160. The dreaded Charlie hole has set up shop over CT. Snowing lightly here, looks like I am going to get shafted here with this storm. Maybe 6″ so far but hard to measure.

    The heavy outer snow band has shifted all the way west and parked itself along the NYS line….its almost to the Hudson Valley. NYC has been getting pounded.

  162. Snow stick reading 10.5″ as we approach noon. Of course, doesn’t account for drifting.
    Temps fluctuating…back up a tick to 28.4…

  163. Was just outside while the oil tank guy installed a new fill piece outside the house, and man it was wild out there! Heaviest snow I’ve seen in a while…. I’m sure part of it is just the wind and swirling but its certainly coming down with a fury!

  164. Any reports of ice damage on the coast?
    Major flooding?
    I believe I read that the state National Guard has been deployed to the coast to help.

    1. Daughter said that three were 3-4 foot piles of ice off the coast of Brant Rock in a photo on FB. That will do considerable damage even without waves I would think.

  166. JpDave

    Storm not hooking east. Mesoscale banding is occurring as the storms continues to strengthen. You’ll experience times of heavy snow combined with times of light/moderate snows. If it has lightened up, it will become heavy soon as more echoes pivot in from the southeast 😀

  169. Highest totals I have seen so far on the spotter reports – 8″ Providence area and Taunton. Could easily end up with 16-20″ in this jackpot area over RI/SE MA

    2. I’m not WxW….I suspect you figured that out 😉

      I am at 25 but do not know if it has risen. I’ll keep an eye also.

    3. It will as the storm makes its closest pass but not to the point where precip issues occur in your area. Watch for a serious temperature drop behind the departing L.

    4. My weather station says 24.2, that is up a couple degrees from earlier though. May be due to a decrease in precip intensity and/or a modest warm push from the approaching low.

  172. I have to laugh a little bit. Sitting here at work listening to WBZ and the Accuweather met was talking up the storm and just got through saying that in some areas the snow was falling at the rate of 2-3 inches an hour. Then he said “the good news is that will all end shortly….around 5pm”…LOL…let’s see even 4 hours at 2 inches an hour….well I’ll leave it up to everyone to do the math.

  176. I am sorry, but the snow is lightening up all over, well at least the radar echos
    are getting weaker. I think the storm has stopped intensifying. We are past
    it’s best precipitation production. It has long since Occluded.

      1. Banding. You’ll still see periods of very heavy snow. Just may not occur continuously which was never anticipated. My area has been under most heavy snow over the past couple hours.

      2. You can also see a nice band over the islands approaching northwestward. Let’s hope it holds up!

  178. Slowed down to not quite one inch in the last hour. At just under 7 inches in Sutton.

    Temp steady at 25 and wind gusting into 30s

  179. The snow shield is starting to fragment. That was expected, and one reason we won’t see 20+ totals. The low is still deepening a little, but this goes back to the idea of “maxing out” too far south. Precip intensity more a function of deepening rate than actual depth.

    2. We’ve been talking about that. I feel the forecast above should be mostly ok but you know someone will come in higher. 😉

      1. Agree, it’s all going as expected here. NYC area getting a surprise though. Leading heavy band made it all the way out there and looks like that’s the “pivot point”.

  180. Now We are getting ordinary run of the mill storm snow. Nothing to get
    excited about. Now it will accumulate 1/2 to 1 inch per hour instead of 2-3 inches
    per hour.

  183. Still puking snow here in South Weymouth…very rough estimate between 8 and 10 inches right now. Here are some South Shore reports with time indicated:
    Milton 8.5 inches @ 11:35
    Walpole 6.8 inches @ 11:27
    Rockland 8.5 inches @ 11:57

  186. uh oh…..temp is down a degree to 24 but that is noisy snow I’m hearing on the window. Almost a bit of sleet feel to it. How can that be?

  187. Pretty intense in downtown Boston. Not 2-3 inches an hour, but surely 1 inch an hour.

    About 3 hours ago I did my morning jog in light to moderate snow. It was beautiful outside but not impressive. For the past few hours it’s been a different story as the snow has really piled up. I never expected more than 10-12 inches in Boston and still don’t. But, a foot is nothing to sneeze at, especially given the polar freeze that follows. Tomorrow it’ll really look and feel like the tundra (say, Baffin Island) in Boston.

      1. Oh boy – thank you Your Highness.

        Even I am not hoping for power loss for anyone. Way too scary with temps coming tomorrow.

  189. That band has indeed moved in from the southeast and is causing near white out conditions again over the I-95 belt. We have 10 inches so far and still piling up. Another band is forming to the southeast of this one and will be pivoting northwestward after a brief decrease in snow intensity following the current band. While I concur that the widespread area of heavy snow has waned temporarily over eastern Massachusetts, to react at a snap shot of the radar and count out additional bands of heavy snow is not prudent.

    1. Snow has gotten a little lighter here…maybe down to somewhere between moderated and heavy and that is shown on my wundermap but it looks like the heavier stuff is about to move back in.

      Will be leave here around 2:30….Should be a fun 5 mile commute

      3. Be safe.

        My oldest just went out for a ride…..don’t even ask me how I feel about that. But she said roads are not bad around here at all. You had the early rain though which might make it really nasty

  190. As the storm approaches, heavy snow bands are now pivoting from the east south east and eventually from due east. Plenty of impressive bands to go.

  192. Tide issue in Boston

    [BREAKING] #Boston tide observation on its way to being the HIGHEST EVER RECORDED since 1921; record 4.82′ MHHW (or 15.1′ MLLW) back w/ the #blizzard of ’78; presently at 4.718′ (or 14.99′) which is the second highest tide ever on record

  194. General question…how do they get official measurements when it’s this windy? An average of areas? Its been snowing here all day but my deck is clear due to the wind. Obviously we probably have 4-6″ by now but looking out you just don’t see it.

  195. Still coming down decent but not with as much intensity, are we done with the heavy stuff now.

  196. Another NWS tweet

    We’re getting inundated w/ coastal flood reports all along the E coast of MA at this hour, some of the worst in recent history being observed in #Boston; stay away from the coastline and do not drive through flooded roads #CoastalFlooding

  197. Just heard that the neighborhood around the beach areas in North Weymouth are flooding…something we don’t normally see.

  199. Folks in eastern MA. If the snow lets up momentarily. Do not let your guard down. It does not mean the storm is over. Contrarily, several bands of heavy snow still to come.

  201. Evacuation in process parts of Marshfield. I have scanner on and reports of chest deep water. Officers requested wet suits

  202. Quick question: My daughter just asked me if this is a nor’easter. Yes or no? (I have no idea, not from these parts originally. I told her it was a “bomb cyclone”)

  204. We are without power. Marsh of south river to my north should hold back the surge from our neighborhood.

  206. I am about to head out for round 1 of clean up.

    I will say one thing about the radar echos. The intensity is down. No denying that, however, snow rates are still decent like 1 inch per hour or so. The snow
    seems to have smaller flakes that probably are not picked up as well on radar.

    While out, I will attempt a measurement. Good luck with that. 😀

    Perhaps I will amend my thoughts on intensity after being out, but looking out
    the window, run of the mill.

    1. I asked myself the same question. A woman and two children were trapped in their car. I’m listening to another report of someone trapped with a child on the scanner Keith gave link to.

  209. Pivot point remains around NYC. Until that shifts eastward, moderate to heavy snow will hang tough eastern sections.

  214. To me it seems this is going admit as expected based on the forecasts from mid yesterday on. No?

    BTW anyone still want to question us mets that forecast a front loaded winter? 😉

        1. Pembroke is about to enter a lull in intensity but I doubt that it becomes completely spared by another heavy band or two between now and this evening. Certainly, the worst may be over in your area.

  218. Oh dear heavens. Scituate scanner just said harbormaster fell off of his board near Mill Wharf restaurant.

  221. Two areas of snow that I think will overachieve:

    1) Certainly a band over western Massachusetts, western Connecticut down to NYC where the pivot point is

    2) Possibly a second band over the I95 belt and the south shore

    Still very impressive snowfall rates. Just measured 13 inches in Westwood and still dumping. Not sure how accurate that is but tried to find an area without drifting.

  223. Western edge of precipitation field over eastern NY state has not yet moved eastward. Until that happens, several more hours of snow.

  224. I might be having a guy come over to snowblow…hate to ask this but what’s a good cleanup time? Seem like 7-8pm?

  225. Arod I am in the band now that you mentioned in western CT. I didn’t think the heavy snow band was going to make it to the NY boarder. I measured 8 inches but tough to get an accurate measurement with all the blowing and drifting of the snow.
    Terrible pics coming out of some of the coastal areas of MA NH and ME.

  226. 14.5″ here in Taunton
    Still around 29 degrees…

    Taunton Municipal Lighting Plant (TMLP), which provides power to the city and five other local communities and villages, is reporting no outages anywhere.
    Middleborough Gas and Electric has a couple of streets out.

    Both are great, local power companies!

    So far, so good down here.

  227. I’m listening to scanner using link provided by Keith. I have just Marshfield and Scituate selected. There is one rescue after another.

    The harbormaster who fell off of his boat I believe was rescued and is on way to hospital.

    I’m not sure that I heard the tides predicted to be this high. However, I am far removed and there may have been warnings of this in the coastal areas.

    1. I’m listening as well . Didn’t hear that but Marshfield is on constant., brantrock is under water and housed that normally don’t flood are flooded .

  228. I just came in. Took a ton of measurements. We have a foot here in JP
    and I think Hadi would concur.

    I also confirmed Hadi’s earlier statement of 2 inches per hour.
    I cleaned my walk and then did the drive and car. Came back to the walk 1/2
    hour later (or less not more) and there was a fresh full inch of snow!

  229. Logan’s wind around to NW to NNW. Temperature Crash coming soon.

    In the meantime up to 29
    Pressure here has fallen to 976 MB. This morning when I posted it was 997 Mb.

  232. 10.8 inches here. Temp up to 28 and wind into high 20s.

    Scituate police reporting tide receded about 2 feet. Good news.

  233. She’s starting to pivot now which is why it might appear as thought its snowing its forward movement

  235. As of the models right now for what they are worth. they are showing 5+ more inches of snow for the region.

  237. Really getting the shaft here in eastern CT as the dry slot set up over us with the heavier bands further east and west. Snow rate has been light now for three hours plus. Hoping that western band pivots back through here before breaking up and ending.

    Nearly impossible to measure with the winds but have between 8-10″ on the front steps and only 4-5″ on the back deck where everything has been blown off like crazy. Going out soon to clean up and will try to take more accurate measurements

  240. Major flooding in Hampton NH
    Also pete bouchard. I just got so much more respect for him. He literally spelled it out for people on air, and I could tell he was not saying something from the proctor.
    He said we are comparing Apples to oranges with this storm , sandy and Blizzard of 78.
    He said what took the Blizzard of 78 ,5 tide cycles, this one did it in 1. He said this is due to a mix of factors and to expect more of this in the coming decade as the waters off the coast rise due to the warming climate/melting ice. He also said that its causing all this coastal erosion with all the new tech we have compared to then that needs to be considered.

    1. Maybe we shouldn’t build so close to the ocean either. That rarely gets talked about. Maybe that idea should get some equal time.

      3. Thats a whole other thing Retrac, don’t get this environmental scientist started lol. Its not like the coast is a bunch of sand/mud and water… that combo is great for building…… Not to mention seawalls eventually make things worse 😉

        1. I apologize for continuing on a semi political rant but to chime in – thank goodness some of the priciest real estate in Boston isn’t – say – built on land full? And I am honestly dumbfounded by all of the investment money going into the Seaport?? And/or all waterfront. That’s literally having cash to burn – or shall we say cash to sink??

          2. I absolutely agree. The landfill makes me shake my head. But that was then. The seaport with what we know if rising waters, especially along the NE coast, is completely irresponsible.

        2. A great start would be to control what we can control. Build away but don’t bitch when there’s wave action in your house. And this is coming from someone who made a lot of money building. (And lost plenty too!) 🙂

          I will go to my grave never accepting that we can control or influence weather in any way. I may be obnoxious from time to time but I’m not arrogant enough to think we can.

      4. I think that once a house goes to the ocean it should not be replaced. I also think you can say do not build in tornado alley or California or Texas or Florida or along any coast east or west.

  241. Powers back as is heavy snow.

    Seeing lots of photos of water with descriptions like worst since 78, worst in a long time.

    Some of that water will refreeze in place before it can return to ocean.

    I’m guessing a lot of the south shore coastal towns will have no school tomorrow to recover. I’m not sure busses could fully get to where they need to go.

    1. Yes indeed Tom snow & wind has picked back up but Tom do you think the snow is done soon say 5

    1. Thanks for confirming that JRW. I’ve been calling numbers into NWS but having an awful time measuring which usually isn’t a problem on my board. I had that same amount at that time.

  244. Perhaps the flooding exceeded things today because the 951 mb low literally had a mound of water under its low pressure that added onto the storm surge and the astronomical tide.

  245. It really picked up for a time this afternoon got around 10 inches. Got some really good wind, Gusts were in the 40s for a time.

  246. John, in response to your comment above, as of 2:30 I memtioned several more hours so I think we agree when you are guessing dinner time.

  247. Right now I see the western edge backing out of NY, a dry slot in CT, and the outer cape showing nothing. Outside of that it is snowing everywhere else. I think TK mentioned that snow would erode from 5 PM-8 PM west to east with lingering bands. Looks about right to me.

  248. Still snowing decently here, adding to the accumulation.
    I suspect we’ll come in somewhere North of 15 inches here, perhaps approaching 18.

  249. Just got home…took about a half hour to go 5 miles. Slow going. Winds are really picking up again here. Still heavy snow falling in Hingham. Best guess is 12-14 inches at this point. Will measure later.

          1. So far staying home…Tomorrow will be another thing especially if Hingham calls school off.

  252. Governor speaking at 5:30 with an update on the states storm response. Will he recommend a state of emergency? Time will tell. (He won’t.)

    1. I would think he will recommend a state of emergency along the coast. Cannot see why elsewhere though.

  253. Just measured a wide average of 13.5” in Wrentham. Not an easy measurement. If trying to get a good measurement, you’ll want to take a wide average including both high and low spots. Also bear in mind there’s still about 2” on the ground from all the way back on Christmas.

    2. Awful. Mac and stayed at that hotel several times in winter. NWS folks stay there often during these storms.

      Thank you

  256. Still pounding here in JP. Where I previously shoveled is BURIED again.

    We make 1 1/2 feet here.

    For this storm I hit the LIKE BUTTON. Too bad about the flooding though. I have seen some footage it is horrific.

  258. Temperature has been rising here in Quincy for the past hour or so. Went from -2.4 to -1.9 C (we went metric a couple of years ago). The temp trend arrow which was pointing up is now level. I’m watching for the arrival of the next round of Arctic air.

    I was thinking of going out and shoveling, but the wind is howling and the snow is still falling as well as blowing. It looks ugly. And it might be as effective as raking leaves in a gale…

  259. I can’t wait to see the LOONEY TUNES final Snow total for Logan.
    They’ll probably come in with 7.9 inches or some such foolishness. 😀 😀 😀
    Maybe Tubby can bend over this time for the measurement.

    1. My daughter and I were just watching ch 4 for the first time today. She saw a classmate being interviewed who had been rescued, in Brant Rock, by the national guard.

    2. I can’t tell where that is. Maybe by the lighthouse? Tom??

      Pictures we are getting from Humarock shows the same. All but the area that is higher on the southern tip is under water. And the dunes supporting the higher area have to be seeing erosion.

      What in heavens name happens to these houses when we get the freeze following this.

      1. Brant rock video was coming down into the village. The church built from stones was on the right. You could look into the village and see the former Arthur and pats in the back right distance.

        I’ve heard today that waves have been a lot bigger in other storms. With this one, it’s like the ocean level at 1pm reached higher than the seawall and the water poured over it, much like an overflowing tub would pour out onto a floor. That’s kind of unsettling.

  262. We have about 5″ of cement here.

    I’m disappointed in myself for not anticipating the seriousness of the coastal flooding. That’s my learning moment from the storm. If we get another sub 960 winter cyclone, assume a more tropical like surge, where a mound of water literally travels under the storm track and surge exceeds expectation.

  263. According to Barry, 40s next week.

    NWS has snow showers Mon-Tue, then cold again.

    Which pattern will take hold?

    1. Split the difference. I think that we’ll have seen the coldest this winter has to offer by the time the weekend is over. However, that does not mean it won’t get cold. Just not crazy cold anymore. I think we see 30s during the day next week with some melting and mostly 20s at night (normal for this time of year). In terms of snow I’m sure we’ll have more even as temperatures moderate and edge towards normal values. Even if we thaw out in a couple of weeks and a southeast ridge takes hold, dips in the jetstream will occur and colder temperatures and snow will happen, just not as anomalously cold as it’s been.

  264. Snow finally showing signs of degradation. I suspect another hour or two of light to occasionally moderate snow before the western edge pushes through. At that time, most of eastern Massachusetts may briefly experience one last hoorah of moderate to heavy snow before it all winds down by 8 pm in most locations.

    This was a terrific storm in terms of snowfall rates/amounts and horrific in terms of coastal flooding. I feel very badly about those folks who reside along the shoreline. I just measured 17 inches of snow after playing football outside with my son with an additional inch or two additional still anticipated.

  265. Thanks arod. I think I have a similar total. I will be out after dinner for clean up round #2 and will take extensive measurements. Looking outside it’s looking very close
    to 18 inches. This was a BIGGIE.

    1. Agreed. Nice little storm. Glad you didn’t give up on it. Hopefully it’s not the last one during this front loaded winter.

    2. The wind is really starting to scream inland now OS. Glad to hear someone got near the 18″ mark. I was bouncing that around with Hadi last night. I’m guessing we’ll be somewhere around a foot.

  266. Top snowfall report so far is 17 from Lincoln. Most all the others are 15 or under. Those are correct. These are hard storms to measure, but I have a lot of experience doing this as I started as a young child. We have around 13 in Woburn with 1 or 2 to go.

    1. That makes sense to me. (Lincoln)

      They had a nice band setup early up that way if I remember correctly.

    2. Measured just under 11 inches in Back Bay about 30 minutes ago. My measurement could be off but it’s an average of 3 measurements. I do think Jamaica Plain and Roslindale have more snow than Back Bay.

      I’m about to clean off my car before everything freezes and becomes harder to move.

      I like Charlie Baker. In fact, I wish there were more politicians like him around. But, I think he should have already declared an SOE for coastal communities. He may do so later today, but symbolically it would have been better had he done it earlier. There’s real devastation in certain locales, and SOE is a trigger, I believe, for federal funds to help support the rebuilding efforts.

      1. I am not sure it would matter. National guard is already helping. I think baker is awesome. We need many more who can work across the aisle. Was it jrw or jwr…..I’m bad with initials …who explained very well why no state of emergency last night.

        And I never saw the tides forecast to be this bad so that may play part of it

  267. Significant flooding was expected so this is no surprise. I just don’t think a lot of people put together the timing of high tide and the height of it with the wind direction and speed. Our coasts are actually more vulnerable with northerly winds much of the time because many of the most flood prone regions are north-facing shores. Many automatically think it has to be east wind. Nope.

    The big difference between this and 1978 however is that those tides were even higher and we had FOUR successive high tide cycles with flooding equal to or worse than today’s, over a wider area, along with significantly more snow added to the water for slush-flooding.

    1. I did know significant was expected. Historic not so much. Pete said the same otherwise. That this did in one what 78 did in five. I did not see anyone even hint at that.

      1. It’s pretty difficult to call historic flooding in advance. That would be the reason. It wasn’t actually expected in 1978 either. This is the case with events that have a low frequency of occurrence.

  269. Tk do you think the band in central mass will rotate back to our area ( Reading, woburn). It looks like the band is moving SE instead of East

  271. Front-loaded winter notwithstanding, we have plenty of time for more snow chances; at least another 90 days in my book. Sadly for some, winter doesn’t end in Boston and vicinity in a cut-and-dried way. Once a more normal pattern takes shape we will begin the oscillating trend towards spring, which will mean a frequent roller coaster ride with ups and downs, rain and snow, teasers and downers.

    1. You are correct, but the pattern will be less supportive of such events not long from now.

  274. Still dumping here. It’s not 3 inches an hour, but it’s still a good accumulating rate
    of at least 1 inch an hour, perhaps 1 1/2 to 2 inches per hour.

      1. It’s still hanging on here with the snow but getting lighter . The wind is whipping it around . If I took a guess maybe 10 or so inches as of now .

      2. Hell no, not when you sum it all up. At times it was run of the mill, at other times it was white out.

        I am going to measure soon, but I guarantee you we are
        very close to a full 18 inches here. There is a SHITLOAD of snow out there. I’ll snap a few photos and post. 😀

  275. Cold and wind through the weekend, then some what warming up into the 30s low 40s just to go back into a cold period again, or does it stay marginally cool in the 30s/low 40s…

    3. Sometimes we just have to tip our cap to Mother Nature. She’s gonna do what she wants. Just out of curiosity, we’re there signs of this and just missed or was it just one of those things. You weren’t the only one, other Mets missed too.

      1. There was always potential as far back as I could see. But I was looking at previous model error and went with the idea it would over develop the first wave and miss the second one. Turns out its development of the first wave (today’s storm), was correct (not taking into account the exact track – obviously that adjusts with different runs until we are almost to the event).

        1. Still think you do an outstanding job and you always apply meteorology and don’t hug the models! Thanks again for everyone’s contribution. It really is a great place to come together and discuss our thoughts, etc.

    4. Hey brother- I didn’t buy it either. Not surprised by intensity, wind, or subsequent cold. The westward extent of significant snow very much surprised me. Good lessons here as always. Snow still not quite the 30-36” of the 1/3 00z NAM…

      1. I knew people that bought that NAM run and went on their “play weatherman” pages to warn everyone.

        Yeah, snow was NOT the biggest impact of this one.

  277. Looks like about 13 in North Reading. Still coming down fairly hard, so I expect an inch or so more. Our superintendent is struggling on making the call tomorrow regarding school/no school. Many communities nearby are closed, but they are mostly cities or larger towns.

  278. Vicki, I agree with you on Baker. I voted for him twice, and I’ll vote for him again. I also don’t claim to know all the ins and outs regarding SOEs. But, I think that when they assess the damage tomorrow in coastal communities it’s going to be very significant and beyond what insurance will reimburse.

    1. I’m shocked at the moment. He has been remarkably responsive when addressing needs of the state and has stood for his constituents when we are faced with what is happening in Washington. Not this time.

  279. I am dumbfounded. Can someone please explain why there is not a SOE at the coast? He barely mentioned it. First thing he has done that I do not agree with but to me it is a major mistake.

  280. Public Information Statement
    National Weather Service Taunton MA
    513 PM EST Thu Jan 4 2018

    …ONLY ONE STATION REPORTED BLIZZARD CONDITIONS TODAY IN SOUTHERN
    NEW ENGLAND…

    The National Weather Service in Taunton has reviewed the
    observations from the winter storm that affected our region today.
    We have determined that the only official reporting site that met
    blizzard criteria was Block Island, RI (BID).

    The definition of a blizzard is that falling and/or blowing snow
    reduces visibility to below 1/4 mile along with sustained winds or
    winds that frequently gust to 35 mph or more, and that these are
    the predominant reported conditions for 3 consecutive hours.

    When reviewing whether a particular observation location had
    blizzard conditions, we counted visibilities equal to 1/4 mile since
    that is often quite low for an automated visibility sensor to detect.

    At Block Island, blizzard conditions occurred between 830 AM and
    1205 PM. In that 3 hour and 35 minute period, there were only a few
    short gaps in which there was a brief lull in the winds, totaling
    18 minutes. Blizzard conditions were predominant.

    Six stations had near-blizzard criteria, but fell short either
    because of too many lull periods, or because of the length of time.
    These near-blizzard sites included Boston, MA (BOS),
    Worcester, MA (ORH), Plymouth, MA (PYM), Providence, RI (PVD),
    Newport, RI (UUU), and North Smithfield, RI (SFZ).

    1. Interesting. And I am not surprised. Other than at the coast it seemed like a good old fashioned New England snow storm

      1. That’s about right. We had a very high astronomical tide and the wind direction and timing was perfectly bad.

  282. This one will be mentioned up there with all the biggies. ‘78, Perfect Storm, February ‘13 and others. Snow amounts not historic, but the intensity of the storm certainly was, as was the flooding.

    General forecast assessment… not great. Problem: our days 5-7 synoptic scale forecasts are so much better than our days 2-3 mesoscale forecasts. We’ve known for a number of days this storm would be out there. Credit the global models for that. That it would come as far west as it did was hard to see until about Tuesday. Also think the messaging was insufficient on the coastal concerns. Beyond the actual numbers exceeding forecasts (not by that much), we absolutely have to find a better way to qualitatively communicate such concerns. That was the issue. We needed highly visible messaging that said “plan for water rescues, widespread impassable roads, etc”. My 10-15” snow range verified well for most, though more towards the high end with a few overs. But I never would’ve forecast that even 48 hours ago. Wind forecasts were good, no surprises there. Was actually a little underwhelmed in that department. All in all, a memorable storm.

  283. Keith (or anyone on the south shore) – do you know anyone that does snow removal in hingham? Tweaked my back earlier and am dreading hurting it more and wouldn’t mind paying someone to do it instead.

    1. I don’t off the top of my head. Are you just looking to have the driveway plowed or full removal?

      1. Anything would be good at this point. Anything that lessens the work. Might just suck it up i don’t know.

    1. I haven’t looked at much but I’m watching for a possible complex winter weather event around that weekend. The pattern may support it.

  289. Wow that was a heck of a storm. I measured several spots coming in a little over 17 inches. Could it be off by an inch or so sure but man I am sore from the snow blower.

    1. I totally agree. It took two rounds and about three hours to move the 16″ inches of snow!
      I feel like I went 15 rounds with the heavyweight champ!
      The snowfall was heavier and thicker than I thought. The auger in the snow blower kept getting jammed up with the mashed potatoes!

      1. Our snow blower is not working well enough. Son in law shoveled. Not huge driveway but big enough. Holds 6 cars and maybe a bit more. He said very heavy. Did it in two rounds.

        Looks as if your school district made the right call for two days off. Gave parents time to plan. Some districts out here say it is cold and not snow. Makes a ton of sense to me.

  292. Measured just under 12 inches in Back Bay – again did 3 separate measurements. Judging from the snowbanks it would be appear to be more than a foot. But, there has been a lot of blowing and drifting.

    It’s interesting that just before and during storms like these squirrels do not come out of their nests. Birds, on the other hand, do venture out just prior to storms like these. Early this morning I did not see any squirrels on my run around the Esplanade Park, and it wasn’t even snowing that hard. I did see several birds. I wonder whether squirrels discuss snow totals and storm surges in their cozy confines. For all we know each nest may be equipped with a state-of-the-art weather station, lazy-boy chair, and hammock.

    2. For all we know, those darn squirrels could be in their secret lairs pushing the buttons and pulling the levers that control the Weather Machine!

  293. Just returned from my clean up. That was one of the most challenging cleanups I can remember. Pounding moderate snow with plunging temperatures and gusty winds made for a difficult couple of hours. I measured in 10 different places with an average of 19 inches of snow in Westwood. When all is set and done around 9 o’clock we’ll be closing in on 20 inches. Wow!

    1. I agree, 3 hour cleanup, wind howling, blowing every shovelful, brutal. In Andover, maybe 14, but really hard to tell.

  294. I just finished the last of the cleanup I’m going to do until morning. Lots of drifting, but near as I can tell based on other storms, how the snow piles up, and areas that aren’t susceptible to drifting, and having lived here 10 years, I think I have around 14-15”.

  296. Still snowing here in Hingham…mostly light but sometimes at moderate levels. Wind is really howling. Feeling cruddy so I’ll hunker down for the night and go out early and shovel.

    3. I can’t stop laughing either.

      I’m trying to figure out which country in (southern?) Europe that picture was taken.

  298. Just got done most of the cleanup with son and wife. The old Ariens is a monster and plowed through the 4 foot piles at end of driveway. Now tomorrow need to do path out back for dog, path for oil delivery and front walk. Lot of snow here in North Reading. Hard to measure, but looks like 14+ inches. Good thing this storm was a fast mover or it would have been a disaster.

  300. Oh, forgot to mention — no school in North Reading tomorrow. Given the amount of snow, the wind and the cold snap heading in, definitely the right call.

  302. Just finished cleanup. Thank god for snowblowers but I agree one of the more difficult ones with the wind howling and temps dropping. It was near impossible to measure but I got an average of 17.3”

  303. I just shovelled in West Newton and that was a lot of snow and serious drifting. I do not measure, but that was, in my view 14-18″

  304. Ended up measuring an average of 10″ on the ground here in Coventry, CT. Had a two foot snow drift in front of the garage tapering to 6″ by the end of the driveway. Side of the garage was blown nearly bare. Very tough measurement.

    I would have never guessed that the jackpot totals in CT would have been in the western half of the state where most towns received a foot or more. It’s all about where the bands set up. We were caught in an area of lighter snow in between the heavier bands most of the afternoon here.

    Schools here and in most towns throughout CT are closed again tomorrow due to the brutal cold, high winds, and blowing snow. That’s 4 days to make up now at the end of the year already after the two we lost in the fall to that powerful coastal storm.

  305. Mama Mia..I ordered three Katy books.,..one for each set of grands. Mike Mulligan was my brothers favorite book of all time. I have given it to each grand in his memory. Funny how you keep touching on memories 🙂

    1. LOVE this!! I was going to secretly get your address from TK and send you one from Amazon but you’re all over it!

      Thanks as always for making this group an even better – and sunnier – one. You guys make Winter so much more enjoyable for us who were formerly less than enthusiastic about bombogenesis!

  307. ESPN is releasing story first light tomorrow regarding patriots power struggle between B.B., RK & TB12 . Also how TB12 went to kraft demanding Jimmy G be traded .

    1. Good grief. It is a shame we cannot just enjoy the years with the best team in years without the drama. And really? ESPN? Now, there is a source I can trust.

    2. It’s already well-known that ESPN hates that team and wants them brought down. I don’t care what team it is, and it’s not just because it’s the Patriots. ESPN should be ASHAMED.

  308. One last check in. Been busy all evening. I didn’t have to go into the office, but
    I sure as hell worked a whole day.

    In any case completed clean up # 2 and hope final.

    Made a ton of measurements.

    Best figure I could come up with was 15.5 inches and I am very comfortable with
    that figure. I thought that it was going to be higher, but hey, it is what it is.

    Nice storm. The flooding was terrible. I couldn’t believe some of that stuff.

    Onto Cleveland….errr I mean onto the next storm If/When it comes.

  309. Cleaned it all up and had some fun out there with brothers and some of the old gang thats back during break. Had a good old neighborhood snowball fight. Shovels allowed 😀

    1. Yikes! You guys threw shovels at each other???

      Just kidding! I get a little slap happy when it stops snowing again!

  310. 0z Euro is a disaster late next week with two days of heavy rain. Gfs and the CMC advertising cutters as well. Still a week off so hopefully time for this to shift east.

    1. Thanks Longshot. Looking this over, I would say that the
      15.5 I measured here in JP seems right in line.

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