18 thoughts on “C-19 Chat Post – June 19 2022”

  1. Monkeypox will likely be declared a global public health emergency later this week. It’s doubling every 9 days – and that’s with very limited testing in countries like the U.S. – and with a fairly long incubation period its spread is certain to be extensive. Here’s a thread on what it’s like to have monkeypox, but also the rather lackluster public health response in Britain (where it’s a much better response than the U.S.). https://twitter.com/TwisterFilm/status/1537777776962551812

      1. Thanks Joshua. Does monkeypox require widespread masking again? Sigh.

        I guess it’s time for Pfizer and/or Moderna to come up with another “rush” vaccine for monkeypox.

        1. Good question re vaccine. I forgot to ask my pcp when I saw him last week if those of us who had the smallpox vaccine had any remaining protection

  2. Vicki, monkeypox is not nearly as transmissible as Covid-19. It will not have the impact Covid-19 has had. It’s fairly hard to contract. But, it’s gotten much more transmissible in the past few months. Why? Scientists don’t know. It’s clearly spreading, even with limited testing.

    1. Thanks again, Joshua. That is good news. Why it is spreading more rapidly than in the past worries me a bit more. Our seeming lack of concern is probably what adds to the worry.

  3. Joshua, you say that monkeypox is fairly hard to contact. Is it through the air like Covid-19? by shaking hands? hugging? close quarters?

    Should mandatory mask mandates return?

    I get the impression that monkeypox has now morphed into something totally different that we may not be able to control.

    1. Masks are not needed to ward off monkeypox, in my humble opinion, at least not under normal circumstances. Though airborne droplets can be a vector, it would need to be very close contact. Transmission often takes place through sexual contact, but certainly not exclusively.

      In terms of control, you’re right. It’s getting harder to contain.

      U.S. lack of testing is a further problem. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-16/monkeypox-cases-could-spread-unseen-in-us-if-testing-bottlenecks-don-t-improve

      1. I actually read that somewhere I just can’t remember where. Social distancing or mask do nothing to prevent it. Sexual ways are the way it’s most transmitted.

  4. My father – he was a doctor and researcher – always said infectious diseases will remain the biggest problem facing global public health. He reminded me constantly of pneumonia being the “captain of the men of death” (a statement attributed to Dr. William Osler). It didn’t surprise my father that pneumonia remains a top killer (it killed him, too, by the way). It also didn’t surprise him that TB remains such an awful scourge, or that HIV emerged and has thus far killed 37 million people. He would not have been surprised at Covid-19’s emergence.

    1. My maternal grandfather died of pneumonia as well. He died on his 3rd bout of it.

      I do believe though that now Covid-19 should rank as the “admiral” of the men of death (to pay homage to your father). At least pneumonia has never forced thousands of businesses to permanently close, not to mention the high human toll among others.

      1. Pneumonia is different. It’s a constant, if you will. Not a pandemic that sweeps the world. It’s also an opportunistic infection in that most people who wind up with pneumonia started out with a more benign case of influenza, rhinovirus, or something else (coronavirus can also cause pneumonia).

  5. They just closed a Covid testing site around here. They have had 1 person show up in the last month.

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