DAYS 1-5 (NOVEMBER 28 – DECEMBER 2)
Look out! Black Friday is here. If you’re doing the classic shopping run-around or attempting outside lights and decorations for the holiday season, you’ll be met with chilly air and a very gusty breeze as the air flows between high pressure to our west and low pressure over southeastern Canada. We’ll have to watch for some snow showers that may migrate our way from the Great Lakes with the help of a pool of cold air passing overhead making it a bit more unstable today. At worst, a couple of these snow showers could briefly dust surfaces that are cold enough, although some measurable amounts are possible in highest elevations, otherwise I don’t expect any major issues from any that occur. High pressure moving closer to the region will keep the cold in place but as the pressure gradient relaxes with the eastern Canadian storm moving further away, Saturday will see less wind and plenty of sunshine. The next low pressure system heads for southeastern Canada via the Great Lakes on Sunday. A warm front extending from this low will pass by our region in the morning, but any snow/mix it produces should remain west and north of our region – maybe a brief period of very light snow north central MA to southern NH. The cold front trailing the low will sweep through our region Sunday evening, and ahead of it will come some rain showers late Sunday afternoon into Sunday evening. The system exits later at night, and Monday will be a chilly, breezy, dry day as a new Canadian air mass arrives. Another quick-moving low pressure area will take shape and move northeastward to threaten our region with precipitation by Tuesday afternoon and night. The track of the low pressure area will determine its impact on our area. The majority of guidance indicates a storm system close enough to bring a variety of precipitation to the region, favoring rain at the coast and snow inland / higher elevation areas, although there is also some guidance that has been very consistent on bringing a flatter, less developed low pressure wave south of our area with a glancing blow of a little light snowfall. With this being a “day 5” forecast as of this update, I’m going to leave the door open to either of these outcomes being possible, and fine-tune as we go.
TODAY: Intervals of sun between many clouds. A passing snow shower possible, especially afternoon. Highs 38-45. Wind W 15-25 MPH, gusts 30+ MPH.
TONIGHT: Partly cloudy. Chance of a snow flurry early. Lows 23-30. Wind W 10-20 MPH, higher gusts.
SATURDAY: Mostly sunny. Highs 36-43. Wind W 5-15 MPH, diminishing late.
SATURDAY NIGHT: Clear evening. Increasing high clouds overnight. Lows 18-25. Wind calm.
SUNDAY: Mostly cloudy. Rain showers likely west to east by late-day. Highs 45-52. Wind S 5-15 MPH.
SUNDAY NIGHT: Mostly cloudy with rain showers likely in the evening. Partly cloudy overnight. Lows 30-37. Wind shifting to W 10-20 MPH, higher gusts.
MONDAY: Sun/cloud mix. Highs 38-45. Wind W 10-20 MPH, higher gusts.
MONDAY NIGHT: Clouding up. Lows 22-29. Wind N up to 10 MPH.
TUESDAY: Overcast. Snow/mix/rain probable. Highs 32-39. Wind NE 5-15 MPH.
DAYS 6-10 (DECEMBER 3-7)
Overall pattern is set to feature near to below normal temperatures. Watching for a frontal passage December 4 and potential low pressure impact some time over the December 6-7 weekend.
DAYS 11-15 (DECEMBER 8-12)
Colder pattern continues. Difficult to time potential precipitation threats, but leaning toward the end of this time frame.
Thanks TK !
Missed the Wordle train today, Turkey overload, I guess.
https://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/images/latest_aia_171.gif
https://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/images/latest_aia_304.gif
Thanks TK
I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving!
6z EURO post from meteorologist Ryan Maue. If this was the day before we might get a HOLY CRAP BATMAN from JpDave.
https://x.com/RyanMaue/status/1994391589230371217
And where did he come up with this? Did you just pull it out of his ass????
What a dreamer!!!
Sure this isn’t APRIL 1st?
Thanks Tk .
Good morning and thanks TK. Hope everyone was able to enjoy thanksgiving.
People on x hyping up next weeks storm like this: https://x.com/ryanmaue/status/1994391589230371217?s=46&t=s4eVVdaEQ
Makes me want it to just be rain in Boston. lol
(Wordle in 4)
SICK SICK SICK SICK!!! NO WAY in hell that happens.
It will RAIN.
That’s a silly post by Ryan Maue. He believes this but “doesn’t believe that the effects of climate change will be catastrophic if humans continue to burn fossil fuels.”
https://www.climateofdenial.org/track-climate-change-denial/ryan-maue/
More on topic, I got Wordle in 5. 🙂
I joined you in the 5 car.
not for nothing, I never cared for Ryan Maue.
I’ll leave it at that.
Damned fool
It will be raining In Boston more than likely
Unless the ECMWF AI is right, in which case it’s a light snow grazing and mainly out to sea.
Good morning and thank you TK.
33 this morning, 39 now.
Ocean still at 50 (keep that in mind as we progress towards Tuesday’s system)
Wordle: 5
Re-post
6Z EURO for the hyped system.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2025112806/ecmwf_mslp_pcpn_frzn_neus_40.png
24 hour precip
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2025112806/ecmwf_apcpn24_neus_36.png
Where snow, a nice dump, but RAIN where most folks live.
JpDave Ryan Maue was showing what the 6z EURO run showed this morning.
He’s out of his mind.
Accidentally erased Tuesday- one sec and I’ll return it to the edit!
That’s good, I’m up for a 4 day work week, next week !
Actually what I did is somehow copy and paste yesterdays 1-5 into today’s 1-5 (no idea what I even did haha). Fixed it all and returned today’s segment to that spot – which is very similar anyway, other than removing Thanksgiving and adding Tuesday.
I saw it but did not want to say anything lol
If you ever catch anything like that, feel free to let me know.
I figured out what I did.
I usually will start by taking a copy of yesterday’s 1-5 and moving it into today’s, at which time I delete TODAY & TONIGHT then add the night & day segments for day 4 & 5. After that I will edit/reword things for any changes. Sometimes I just re-write all of them. If I’m busy, I’ll leave something alone that hasn’t changed at all.
Today, I was multi-tasking during the writing and I ended up editing DAYS 6-10 & 11-15 in the other tab, leaving the correct DAYS 1-5 in the other tab, and saving / sending the wrong one. The discussion was already written and was the same on both versions. So the version that got sent was the correct discussion, the wrong 1-5, and the correct 6-10 & 11-15.
Will do
Re: Ryan Maue
I notice he has Atlanta, GA as his home area?
I’m not defending him, but if you don’t live in a part of the country you’re suggesting an outcome for, you definitely lack the gained experiences of weather nuance for the local area.
And I wonder if that’s having an effect here.
I usually avoid anything he posts. That’s basically all I’m going to say.
Ok, I shall take that into consideration, thanks TK !
Happy to see we agree!!
If Ryan’s prediction came to be, I would be happy as a clam. Yesterday at Thanksgiving dinner, we went around the table guessing the date for the first measurable snowfall in Lunenburg. I went for Dec 3, much earlier than anyone else.
Go Team Ryan Hyper! 🙂
So, just how happy is a clam? And how does one measure that? Just curious.
Start by asking a clam. 🙂
Thanks TK! Dealing with Thanksgiving driving hangover – got back from day trip to Long Island at 1am this morning. Thankfully it was great driving weather
Thanks TK.
1,372 ❄️
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=icon&p=prateptype_cat_icon-met&rh=2025112812&fh=108&r=ca_e&dpdt=&mc=
So here’s a panel from the now running ICON and I did an eastern Canada regional frame here to illustrate a definite missing ingredient, important this early in the year.
A polar high to our north. It’s retreating way to the east.
In the dead on Winter, that position would be just fine, but this time of year? Well, not so good.
Today is also called “Brown Friday” as this is the busiest day of the year for plumbers.
Turkey gravy, grease etc. clogged in the pipes from yesterday.
NO JOKE!
That can be avoided by running extremely hot water for several minutes – or avoiding the full grease down the drain to start with.
I thought you were going somewhere else with that. 🙂
Thank you TK. Up to 37from 28
Wordle was nothing short of a miracle. I entered a familiar word using the two non correctly placed letters I had and darn near went off my chair when it took. Shear luck to get a 3
https://ibb.co/8DVVg002
Awesome !
Wow – that is miraculous!
Well done Vicki!
No, I’d say skill.
Thank you all.
I’ll explain tomorrow. Don’t want to give it away today.
Great work
A model is just a simulation. It’s then applying what you know to adjust it to what’s likely to take place.
Even though I may have his words wrong and may not even be fully accurate, that’s what I think TK is always telling us.
So, with the new 12z ICON, I know it’s only early December and I adjust it because it looks like too cold a run to me for so early in the season with a 50F ocean and not a really bridged polar high to the north. It’s keeping inland areas way too chilly, in my opinion.
Important to note that if it’s a flatter, faster wave, there will be less ocean boundary layer influence.
Thanks !
Id assume though that would lower or dramatically lower the amount of precip the region would get ?
Most likely.
BUT the precipitation would be mostly snow. ❄️ 🙂
I won’t be paying a ton of attention to the deterministic runs today other than if they make any moves…
They become more useful tomorrow (starting with the 00z runs tonight).
That said, the 12z ICON makes a move further southeast, in the direction of the still-unchanged ECMWF AI.
Thank you TK!
Wordle: 4
Very nice Sue. Excellent everyone. It’s definitely an odd word
Wonderful!
What is going to be so frustrating is that the rain/snow line probably won’t be all that far away from the coastal plain, relatively speaking.
I can see Worcester getting off to a fast start with 6”+ while Boston continues bare.
The Boston vs. Worcester “rivalry” 2025-26 begins come Tuesday with Worcester getting the opening “touchdown” for the season…as usual. 🙁
Not even considering a rain/snow line until 72 hours out, if there is even one to consider. There are scenarios in play in which there won’t be.
12Z ICON Kuchera Snow
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=icon&p=snku_acc-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=126&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
6Z ICON Kuchera Snow
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2025112806&fh=132&dpdt=&mc=&r=us_ne&p=snku_acc-imp&m=icon
A bit of difference there.
The NWS stated (before I had a chance to) for model simulations the thing to pay more attention to over Kuchera & 10:1 is the positive snow depth change maps.
12Z ICON 500MB
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2025112812&fh=114&dpdt=&mc=&r=conus&p=500wh&m=icon
6Z ICON 500MB
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2025112806&fh=120&dpdt=&mc=&r=conus&p=500wh&m=icon
The base of the trough at 500MB is farther South and it is a tad flatter. That’s the difference.
GFS IS ROLLING. WILL it pick up on anything???
The older version of the GFS probably would. I don’t expect too much change on this one (as far as the op run goes).
Penny for your Thoughts on the Euro?
For now I’m just watching the trends on what it does with the main low vs. it’s AI cousin. The AI has been adamant on wanting the trough near the Carolina coast to become the focus for a main low deveopment, and a track that’s further SE than all the other global guidance.
The non AI version has been ever so slightly closer to this solution than the GFS. So I’m just still in trend-watching mode for today.
Ok, thanks.
Do you trust the EURO AI version?
It’s performed very admirably in the last several months.
The GFS (as is), before it even gets to the period for the storm threat – I can tell you that if you want a colder solution then it does not have high pressure in a good place leading up to the thing. It’s exactly where you don’t want it to be, in fact.
Again also important to take into account the time of year.
P.S. – I can almost guarantee you the op run of GFS will also deepen the low too quickly.
BINGO !!!!
981 mb nearing the gulf of Maine, LMAO !!
12Z GFS is high and tight, wet and wild. POUNDING RAIN up to VT/NH border. YUCK!!
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2025112812&fh=105&dpdt=&mc=&r=us_ne&p=prateptype_cat-imp&m=gfs
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=prateptype_cat-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=108&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
24 hour Kuchera Snow
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=snku_024h-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=114&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
24 hour snow depth change
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=snodpc_acc-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=120&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
https://radar.weather.gov/station/KBOX/standard
Now that is a lot more activity than I expected. 🙂 🙂
Alrighty!
I’ve seen 12z ICON & GFS. I’ll take a look at the Canadian & Euro when they come in, but for now I am focusing on 2 things…
1) The next round of Christmas decorating down at mom’s place. We are making her place as festive as ever, per her wishes. 🙂
2) The radar today. I want to see what we get for snow showers out this way, which to me is more exciting than the what-ifs for Tuesday at this point.
Big smile that you are decorating your mom’s place. ❤️
So the 12Z GDPS is flatter and NOT nearly as intense
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gdps&p=prateptype-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=108&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
Kuchera Snow
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gdps&p=snku_acc-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=126&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
This is what we want IF we want a chance for snow.
Interesting, the UKMET is following THE GDPS.
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ukmo_global&p=prateptype_ukmo-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=108&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
10:1 Snow
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ukmo_global&p=sn10_acc-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=117&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
Now waiting on the Euro! What will it show.
For the second time this month I am seeing snowflakes.
Thanks TK.
Winter wonderland here in Amsterdam NY. Moderate snow and wind currently and about 33F. Picked up an inch earlier and now are accumulating again as the northern edge of the band is parked over us for now. Most of the heavier sustained action is just to our south but we will see how long we can keep this going.
The fragmented end of this band is what is causing the scattered snow showers in central MA right now.
I snapped these pictures a short time ago…
https://imgur.com/a/yoWlK1H
Road conditions have deteriorated rapidly.
I see some high-speed wind-propelled snow flakes here.
Concerning the 🙂 happy clam 🙂 discussed above:
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/as-happy-as-a-clam.html
Time periods for 12z EURO for Tuesday
1pm
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ecmwf_full&p=prateptype_cat_ecmwf-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=102&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
8pm
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ecmwf_full&p=prateptype_cat_ecmwf-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=108&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
1am
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ecmwf_full&p=prateptype_cat_ecmwf-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=114&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
10:1 snow
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ecmwf_full&p=sn10_acc-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=120&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
Uh oh. I have to get to and from Boston that evening.
Snowflakes here. ❤️
Oh my
12Z EURO
surface
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ecmwf_full&p=prateptype_cat_ecmwf-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=114&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
10:1 snow
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ecmwf_full&p=sn10_acc-imp&rh=2025112812&fh=120&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
Sorry, didn’t realize JJ already posted this
Now there is really some model divergence!!
Good for my area if that track holds.
Bad for you or anyone near or at the coast who want snow. Plenty of time for this to change. 12z GFS over amped compared to the other 12z guidance.
12z Euro Positive snow depth change map for Tuesday:
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiNlw3YdsM40ZhgNjekVJXfcEtQ-zOZ4bWr4-QggNxGts6G8H7cWAUG1bUVJx2Gxlo8Q5S42SEcEptRWsme48OPIyK-TanlmNmCq0VYc27_4Stw0T97D809TUK2lNWp4fHtU6FnvD-RDZ-cIo3Vws5sITLgxTxARJZR6_0B68WMj5O1ApK4jL_5OCkOVhk
1.5″ for Logan trending up to 6″ Waltham to 8″ Worcester and 6-8″ for northern CT.
And 12z Euro Kuchera Snow vs 6z:
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgIy2VjVyg7B51zV54sDxPi3gcMSIP3kWp5zkLO_DQrUu0jM23ewlHtn4aVlqtq0D8zpxhoP8jxqEtu5pYi596dFh8UIZEdHjgALCXpxBK3uiQzCvB9I9NjqQ9iQJuABLIuPhy51eSDAFpMSzBoa7M63J11Z7oll3FumdN2ObRECSUshGKBxcYUvfF5nPQ
12z looks more reasonable.
That’s about 4 inches for here in JP. I’d take that for the 1st snow.
NOT going to happen,, but I’d take it for sure!!!
Mark nice snow event for us in CT if this pans out. Of course plenty of time for this to change.
12z Euro with additional winter storm threats on 12/5, 12/8 and 12/11….Lol.
Run total Snow at 10:1 for entertainment purposes with 2 feet plus for most of New England:
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2025112812&fh=360&dpdt=&mc=&r=us_ne&p=sn10_acc-imp&m=ecmwf_full
Fast start to the winter perhaps?
Enjoying this little appetizer today. Ripping snow here again in this Lake Effect band! Really nice fetch going off Ontario today.
Things to keep tabs on. Hopefully we cash in.
I dont see how we dont cash in a couple times over the next two weeks JJ. Pattern is ripe!
Near whiteout here again! This band stretches all the way from Lake Huron NW of Toronto, SE over Lake Ontario and down the Mohawk Valley into Massachusetts. The fragmented end of it is creating snow showers all the way to Boston at this point!
Basically picking up moisture from both Lakes.
We may actually squeak out the low end of the advisory range we are in here of 3-5″. Doesnt happen too often this close to Albany.
Yup had a few flurries here in JP. NOT a snow shower, but some flakes in the air.
Bradford NH at 895′ elevation..
https://www.americanwx.com/bb/uploads/monthly_2025_11/20251128_132318comp.jpg.dfbcfe0d5460d86a67f990d17503f9db.jpg
I am hoping I am looking out my window to see something similar to that next week.
We had enough snow to get the grass and cars white. Now the sky is clear again.
So fun. Just on and off flurries here. But lovely also
I took a look at the 12z euro’s 850 and 925 mb temps and yes, they are below 0C, but they are not -5C or lower in areas it projects 7-8 inches of wet snow.
It also has the retreating high ……
Beating a dead horse, very early in December, ocean temps, deepening sfc low with wind …
I think those snow projections for low level elevations are very, very questionable.
If that exact scenario played out, Worcester airport and other interior elevated areas might get a plow able wet snow, but lower in elevation, I don’t think those snow amts would verify in that exact scenario.
I’ve seen it happen before, but We shall see. I HEAR you for all the reasons you stated. But one never knows. 🙂
Indeed.
I guess I hope people, when seeing something like that euro snowfall map, set their expectations for less, with hopefully a pleasant surprise if their ends up being more.
Not here on TK’s blog, I think because I’ve made weather posts on Facebook, facebooks algorithm posts all these weather pages on my feed that, wow, they are setting their readers up for mass disappointment and based on some comments, the readers expectations are now sky high.
I have to ask my daughters help me shut some of those pages down from my feed. I’m annoyed watching them post the best snow scenarios and annoyed when they go on to post so much stuff and end it at the end with, not a forecast.
Those people are PATHETIC!!!
That ocean is NOT you friend when you want snow early in the season. It simply IS NOT!!!
Awesome blocking pages.
Serious snow squall at the moment in Swampscott
Radar says it should be snowing here. NOT a flake at the moment. 🙂
Just ended. Coated balcony, roofs, and grass.
Kind of exciting while it lasted.
Nice!
Watched BOTH Eddie and the Cruisers movies today.
The 2nd one is FAR SUPERIOR to the 1st. Both are full of some great music. You could watch the 2nd without the 1st, but the 1st does set it up, even if it is not as well done and full of flash backs.
Available for FREE at https://ww4.fmovies.co/search/?q=Eddie+and+the+cruisers
I have been looking for these movies for a long time. NOT available on any of the typical streaming sites. I stumbled on this today, so I watched them both. 1st one was not very good.
The 2nd one was WONDERFUL and I really enjoyed it.
BTW, all of the music was performed by John Cafferty and the beaver brown band, who by the way is from Rhode Island.
On the dark side !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgIsyoxZ7Uw&list=RDGgIsyoxZ7Uw&start_radio=1
From the movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk0Kckv-tqQ&list=RDWk0Kckv-tqQ&start_radio=1
I wish I was born in that generation. Hair slicked back , nice Chevy & classic music
I was around then for sure!!!!
I was born before there was even rock ‘n Roll.
Cool , I love the oldies
Hey, I’m an OLDIE!
The Stream Mark was mentioning. WOW! this has some staying power!
https://radar.weather.gov/station/KENX/standard
2 inches of new snow at Fitchburg
Send some here. 🙂 🙂
a few flakes of new snow here.
The 18Z NAM at 84 hours looks like it wants to be super amplified and thus RAIN!
The Ch. 7 met used the word PLOWABLE!
I imagine that will be the “word of the day” in newscasts and forecasts for the next few days through next Wednesday morning.
“PLOWABLE” for BOSTON?
We shall see. I wouldn’t be so sure of that.
The word “plowable” is used quite liberally nowadays. I’m going to guess that whatever happens Tuesday will not be plowable, save for side streets (and that’s a big maybe). To me, plowable is when my street, Beacon, has to be plowed. And that hasn’t happened since February 2022. No event since then has been plowable according to my definition, even if plows were out. And I’d love to get on the snow train this December. But I refuse to until I see more evidence that SNE will get in the action. If this was the Northern tier of states in the middle of the country (lower 48) OR NNE OR Western NY state, different story.
As opposed to unplowable snow! 🙂
https://ibb.co/LhsvjDm4
For where Boston ? Don’t hold your breath
As I’ve said I want some real plowable storms but I don’t think It’s in the cards for Tuesday night , sure would be nice to have a nice snow cover for Christmas this year
Just measured 3.5″ here in Amsterdam on the north side of town so managed to get into the WWA range. There is a report 5″ a few miles up the road, meanwhile just down the hill Downtown at river level there is probably only an inch. A function both of elevation and where the heaviest band set up earlier.
Snow has ended now as the intense band has sagged about 5-10 miles south of here. It was ripping in that band…whiteout conditions with 1-2″/hour snow and gusty winds. Schenectady and Albany over to Pittsfield are now getting clocked.
VERY nice. Man, I wish I was there.
Eh, you’d probably wouldnt like it as much as the other Amsterdam you are used to 🙂
You must be in your glory Mark , enjoy !
Just the appetizer as JJ would say for what we will ALL be dealing with in December…
ECMWF MJO forecast looks great for the entire month of December…
https://x.com/SCweather_wx/status/1994396957113270603?s=20
I think I just heard a scream of frustration from Jamaica Plain (18z GFS)
I hope our good friend will remember it’s the GFS and not even the 00 or 12z run.
Grain of salt my good man. It’s the gfs!!!!!
18z is high and tight wet and wild. Even worse than 12z run.
18z icon is,all systems go for a moderate snow event.
ICON looks great…
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2025112818&fh=102&dpdt=&mc=&r=us_ne&p=prateptype_cat_icon-imp&m=icon
Kuchera snow would be a low end warning event for most….
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=icon&p=snku_acc-imp&rh=2025112818&fh=120&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
12z Euro AI FWIW looked nearly identical to the 18z ICON:
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ecmwf_aifs&p=sfcwind_mslp&rh=2025112812&fh=108&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
996 and 992 mb lows respectively in about the same position south of Nantucket. Neither looks anything like the over-amped GFS.
Thanks, TK!
Although the sky did look a little threatening at times today, no flurries this far east (yet!) 🙂
Thank you, TK.
Mark, I find people in upstate NY so friendly: From Albany to Watertown to Hudson to Amsterdam.
Back in my day, plows wouldn’t start plowing until the snow depth was at least 3 inches. I have no idea what the criteria is these days.
Back in my Belmont days we had heated roads so we didn’t need a plow
Well, that may be a trensey bit true. One road in Belmont wss heated. Snake hill. It was in the 40s
Snake Hill Road in Belmont, MA, is a historically significant street known for having a built-in radiant heating system under the pavement to melt snow and ice. This innovative feature was part of the original design for the mid-century modern community developed in the 1940s by architect Carl Koch and several Harvard-affiliated individuals.
The community was planned for a steep, rocky site with magnificent views of Boston, which was otherwise considered difficult to build on. The heated road ensured year-round accessibility, a crucial aspect given the steep incline.
Many of the individual homes within the Snake Hill development also feature radiant heating systems, often with radiant heated slate floors, as part of their original mid-century modern design.
12z EPS Ensemble mean further NW but still looks good:
https://www.americanwx.com/bb/uploads/monthly_2025_11/356663930_14-kmEPSGlobalCyclonesEnsMeanMSLPLowsEnsMeanMSLPLows114.png.4e7aaac2f56e5fa6299623ce9b8ad6dd.png
12z Euro EPS Ensemble Mean Snow (10:1):
https://www.americanwx.com/bb/uploads/monthly_2025_11/6929f01e1c3d4.png.2413625836c70ae35907196788586e98.png
I know what the models are saying when they simulate a good track, but in the good track scenario, I think the models are way overdoing the snow.
Those are great tracks in January through early April with cold high pressure to the north.
The system will have neither a cold high to the north nor a cooler ocean. I don’t get why the models are simulating this much snow in the right track scenarios.
Wibd direction??? More northerly component?????
Can’t think of anything else.
And this is a good part of the hype.
Pete posted on fb about next week. He clearly said it is a possibility and too far out.
A friend shared his post. I commented to remember the words far out and possibility not for her but those reading
Sure enough someone commented right after me “here comes the hype get the bread”.
I said my peace. These folks fault Mets for doing exactly what they are the guilty party for.
I don’t get why people need to be negative
Don’t let anyone bring your positivity down Vicki. Thank you for what you bring to our discussions
Awww what a kind comment. Thank you ❤️
I’ll always stand for people i care for. Sweet dreams JimmyB
Thanks TK.
Not falling one bit for this type of system in early December. We have seen this may times with no high draining the cold air in. This will end up rain for most of SNE even interior parts. Don’t even think it will be snow unless something changes.
Very possible. But I’m not sure I agree with early December. The 9th has a history and it’s just less than a week later.
It goes back to what I say about a slipping of the mind into mid winter mode.
It’s still autumn. The water temps are still relatively warm. Major snow events during the first half to 2/3 of December are rather rare. It’s just the climatology of our region. We’ve had a few, but they are not common.
Isn’t it hard to rule out all though just because of date? I can think of at least four major storms in early December in the last 40ish years.
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